SRD 3.5 Competition

[Drawmack]

Shouldn't you use the HTML standard as the reference point?

Yes and they can be gotten here: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/

You should also run it through a validator: http://validator.w3.org/

Or, failing that, the browser that comes closest to supporting the standards? That's Mozilla/Chimera or Safari, currently, isn't it (don't know for certain since i don't have anything that can run Safari)?

Opera is 100% w3c compliant http://www.opera.com/

What's the W3C's current test-bed browser? Does it run on anything but some obscure flavor of Unix? [/B]

I don't know but opera is really good. I very rarely have problems with other browsers when I devlope in Opera.

 

[Drawmack]

First of all which HTML standards? 4.0? W3C?
Maybe Mozilla/Chimera is best supporting 'pure' html, but IE seems to be the most popular (95%+ market share).

I think that it should be tested in a variety of browsers by the judges. After all aren't we doing it in HTML to be flexible?

 

[Drawmack]

Personally, if I did an HTML version, well...I only support IE6. Nothing else. I'm a snob that way.

A professional web designer/developer would never make such a statement.

 

[Drawmack]

Ah, now you've hit on the major problem with the internet these days. You'd think going with the html standards would be fine, but considering that 95-98% of the world used Internet Explorer (just heard that number a couple days ago), you pretty much have to make sure it's usable in that browser (I'm talking general website development). The fact that Microsoft all but refuses to work with any standard that they haven't created throws a wrench in it. I know Safari is built to use the true web standards, but chances are, IE would screw something up. But the world has been Microsoft'd, so if you want anyone to use it effectively, you have to mess up your code a bit.

Kind of silly, really. Don't even get me started on their WMA format...

Actually if you code by the standards IE does a great job of displaying it. MS does follow the w3c standards for IE, they had to or they were not going to be allowed to sell it in certain countries and since is coupled so tightly with windows that was a problem. What IE does is adds things on and uses jscript in stead of javascript. If you write 100% compliant HTML and Javascript it will run just fine in IE, however if you write mess that works in IE it might not work elsewhere. All browsers have this flaw. They all have little things they let you get away with that they shouldn't and those little things are different between different browsers that's why you should validate your code.

 

[Dimwhit]

Actually if you code by the standards IE does a great job of displaying it. MS does follow the w3c standards for IE, they had to or they were not going to be allowed to sell it in certain countries and since is coupled so tightly with windows that was a problem. What IE does is adds things on and uses jscript in stead of javascript. If you write 100% compliant HTML and Javascript it will run just fine in IE, however if you write mess that works in IE it might not work elsewhere. All browsers have this flaw. They all have little things they let you get away with that they shouldn't and those little things are different between different browsers that's why you should validate your code.

Yeah, you're right. I guess what I was getting at was that if you designed a site strictly to work with IE, you won't necessarily have an html w3c compliant site. But you're right, if you do the html properly, it shouldn't matter which browser you're on.

Some day I'll try Opera, but I've heard that they may (or have) stop developing it for the Mac. Since Safari came out, several browsers are ceasing on the Mac, because Safari works so well (though it still has bugs). Microsoft already announced that it was done with IE for Mac. No big loss for me, though.

 

[Storminator]

Hey folks! Just saw this thread for the first time, and I think it's great. I'm the guy that kicked Anna Dobbritt (spelling?) into selling her SRD a few months back.

And I'm very happy to see all the hard work! And I propose that we start a collection for a prize! Wish it were more, but I'm offering a $20 seed for prizes! Any one else want to add in? If others do we'll figure out how to organize the pot and ensure distro to the winner.

PS

 

[Dimwhit]

And I'm very happy to see all the hard work! And I propose that we start a collection for a prize! Wish it were more, but I'm offering a $20 seed for prizes! Any one else want to add in? If others do we'll figure out how to organize the pot and ensure distro to the winner.

Now we're talking! Thanks Storminator. I'm quite on the broke side, myself, but I'm willing to put up a little money (I can swing at least $10, maybe more).

Storminator, do you want to help me work out the distro for the money? Email me at srd@dimwhit.com and we can work it out. Maybe if someone has a paypal account, those who want to contribute can pay into that account, then that person can dish out the awards.

So the money would be split 3 ways, unless we don't get enough interest in the miscellaneous section, in which case it will be split 2 ways.

If anyone else wants to contribute (participators in the competition are exempt ), email me at srd@dimwhit.com (and feel free to post it here, as well).

 

[Conaill]

I stand by my earlier prediction: either the cease and desist letter they received from Amigo goes away when they realize they haven't got a leg to stand on, or The Other Game Company is either bought by or paid off by Amigo.

A complicating factor for TOGC is that they are based in Germany as well. I don't know squat about german intellectual property law, but it is conceivable that Amigo might actually have legal grounds to at least prevent other german companies from distributing the SRD - for free or not!

Let's just hope this blows over quickly. I was kinda hoping to invite TOGC to join our competition.

 

[Breakdaddy]

I use Phoenix (Mozilla-Firebird) exclusively as my browser. It handles everything Ive thrown at it so far with no formatting problems, so I think anyone who is using it will find it a worthwile (and free) download!

 

[kreynolds]

A professional web designer/developer would never make such a statement.

You sure about that? Before you answer, I want you to consider the implications of that blindly hurled remark of yours very carefully. Thanks.