ST: From 007 to ... NCC-1701???


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Ranger REG said:
Well, either the franchise can try to persuade JJ Abrams to make something new, despite the fact that he's pretty much locked onto the concept, or find someone else.

Eh... I think trying to introduce a brand new crew in a movie would be a bad idea. Iconic characters dont grow on trees.

Kirk and crew are the most iconic characters of the Trek universe. I think the proof of that is in how hard it was to translate the TNG crew up onto the big screen. They didn't translate as well.

Not to mention, there's been LESS done with them than either the TNG or DS9 crew (or hell, even the Voyager crew).

So the concept is far from played out imo.
 

I'm kinda ambivalent about this. I think it's a bit early for a remake of Trek, though if it's pulled off well, I think I could like it.

However, I think one of the big things about Trek was that it more or less progressed along a certain continuity; a good Trek series set further in the future (possibly past most or all of the lifespans of the TNG/DS9/Voyager crews) would be acceptable, and it'd just add to the Trek universe (rather than reworking it).

Have to wait & see what happens. Then again, i wonder how long it'll be `til they reboot other franchises (Star Wars, perhaps?--maybe not long after Lucas kicks the bucket).
 

Vigilance said:
Eh... I think trying to introduce a brand new crew in a movie would be a bad idea. Iconic characters dont grow on trees.

Kirk and crew are the most iconic characters of the Trek universe. I think the proof of that is in how hard it was to translate the TNG crew up onto the big screen. They didn't translate as well.

Not to mention, there's been LESS done with them than either the TNG or DS9 crew (or hell, even the Voyager crew).

So the concept is far from played out imo.
I think the TNG crew's failures on film had more to do with the subpar stories and lame execution. I mean sure, Generations wasn't a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination, but it was hardly an awful film. They then followed that with the excellent First Contact, which I think was proof enough that the TNG crew could carry on the franchise. But rather than building on the success of that film, they backtracked and came up with what was in my mind a glorified extended TV episode called Insurrection. Talk about lame. Finally we end up with what I think was the writers desperate attempt to retread the success of The Wrath of Khan by introducing a villain who was Picard's equal (literally), but ended up with a pale imitation. I speak of course, of the dull and uninspired Nemesis.
 


Wait, wait! There needs to be one where the Voyager crew finds a space anomaly that shunts them back to the days of Beckett--uhh, I mean, Archer--and have the two crews race to save the future--or past, whatever--from ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION!!!!!! That'd be the best Trek movie evar!!!!

. . .

I didn't like Casino Royale, but Daniel Craig as Kirk (or any other Captain type) would do it for me. Especially if he has his shirt off most of the time. Mmm. No Matt Damon for me!

Edit: I should add something somewhat relevant, and that will be this: I'm not too keen on a restart of Trek, but I understand the need to use easily marketable characters. As long as they don't fudge it up too terribly, I'll be okay with it. My expectations will be low, but I'll definitely be one of the first in line to see it.
 

AFGNCAAP said:
Have to wait & see what happens. Then again, i wonder how long it'll be `til they reboot other franchises (Star Wars, perhaps?--maybe not long after Lucas kicks the bucket).
Reboot Star Wars? No need at this point. Say what you want about the prequels but maybe add more to the story but a six movie franchise doesn't need a reboot.

Reboots should really be reserved for things like TV shows and I guess TV shows that have movies count.
 



horacethegrey said:
I think the TNG crew's failures on film had more to do with the subpar stories and lame execution. I mean sure, Generations wasn't a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination, but it was hardly an awful film. They then followed that with the excellent First Contact, which I think was proof enough that the TNG crew could carry on the franchise. But rather than building on the success of that film, they backtracked and came up with what was in my mind a glorified extended TV episode called Insurrection. Talk about lame. Finally we end up with what I think was the writers desperate attempt to retread the success of The Wrath of Khan by introducing a villain who was Picard's equal (literally), but ended up with a pale imitation. I speak of course, of the dull and uninspired Nemesis.

I agree the TNG movies could have been better.

My larger point was I keep hearing people talk like TOS is this tired old part of Trek, when in fact, it's UNDER used.

All the series since TNG were set in basically the same universe. So that's 25 seasons of TV and 4 movies.

As opposed to 3 seasons of TV, two seasons of animated cartoons and 6 movies.

That's my point. Ranger Reg basically said, if I understood him right "do something new".

TOS is much more new than anything in the TNG era.
 

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