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I hate to sound negative but I think any new star trek movie would have to attract new fans to be successful.

Star Trek fans are far far far too finicky for anything new to be successful. When Enterprise came out it was disowned by many fans just because it didn't have perfect continuity or because it didn't match their view of what early Trek would be like or just because there were words in the theme song.

I've been to the Star Trek boards during that time and I couldn't believe how fans were turning away from what was a good show for no real reason (in my opinion).

Very few producers will look at Enterprise's failure as "we did it wrong" - they'll look at it as "Star Trek failed lets leave it alone". For fans this is a loss.

Perhaps some well-known talent from other non-trek sources would attract fans. Perhaps if it were just a very good sci-fi starring well know actors that just happen to be playing characters named Kirk and Spock then perhaps it would be accepted by the general public and be successful.

For example, some fans would like it to be darker in atmosphere while others want it to be bright and positive. What would sadden me is that if the movie were either, some fans might refuse to see it thereby cutting the fan base in half - and eliminating any producer's interest for years to come.
 

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I would like to see more Star Trek set in TOS era, but not involving the Enterprise or its crew. The problem is most Trek movies have been hit or miss.(mostly miss in my opinion) I think Star Trek works much better on TV than the big screen. I really fear that a reboot of TOS is not a good direction to take the franchise.
trancejeremy said:
Personally, I think animation is the way to go. Either that or puppets.
Wait, you're saying William Shatner isn't a puppet? :eek:
 

Rykion said:
I would like to see more Star Trek set in TOS era, but not involving the Enterprise or its crew. The problem is most Trek movies have been hit or miss.(mostly miss in my opinion) I think Star Trek works much better on TV than the big screen. I really fear that a reboot of TOS is not a good direction to take the franchise.

Well, JJ Abrams has said it wont be a reboot continuously.

It will have different actors in the roles though.

Again, and I don't know how many ways I can say this, this was inevitable. I'll even go further and say that whoever they cast to play him THIS TIME won't be the last person to play him either.

Kirk is as likely to outlive his creators (Roddenberry and Shatner) as Don Quixote.
 





Lockridge said:
I hate to sound negative but I think any new star trek movie would have to attract new fans to be successful.

Star Trek fans are far far far too finicky for anything new to be successful. When Enterprise came out it was disowned by many fans just because it didn't have perfect continuity or because it didn't match their view of what early Trek would be like or just because there were words in the theme song.
Meh. That's a minor issue. Besides, many of us prefer the trailer's theme song ("Everywhere We Go" by the Calling) over the theme music from the movie Patch Adam.


Lockridge said:
I've been to the Star Trek boards during that time and I couldn't believe how fans were turning away from what was a good show for no real reason (in my opinion).
It's classic Braga. He sets the pace of the episode for the first 45 minutes and then quickly concludes it in the last 5 minutes. Even as a Fan of All Things Klingons, never did like them appearing on the first episode. Never consider that to be the first meeting between humans and Klingons. The show should have started off with meeting the Andorians (which they finally did a few episodes later).

The series's only saving grace is when Berman and Braga stepped back and let Manny Coto run the show for the fourth and sadly the final season. By then, it was already too late.

But then there were other disappointments in the film area, such as the back-to-back INSURRECTION and NEMESIS. At this point, we fans pretty much lost confidence in the franchise's leadership (Rick Berman, who's more of a "social" producer than a creative one ... he knows who to schmooze in the Paramount lot).
 

Pbartender said:
No... I think we'd have to reserve that role for William H. Macy.
If you're going to do a film about a young Kirk, you need a young McCoy. Either Matthew McConaughey or Josh Lucas (both have distinguished Southern accent) can fit the role.
 


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