stacking bonus

[dcollins]

It's a good question for the FAQ. But I'm not convinced.

Look carefully at the rule you think you're referring to. From the SRD:

Most items that add to ability scores are restricted to a maximum bonus of +6, and the bonus usually comes in multiples of 2 (+2, +4, or +6).

That limitiation is specific to magic items. There is no limitation or upper-cap given anywhere for enhancement bonuses in general (as by a spell). A +8 bonus from a metamagiced bull's strength is completely allowed by the rules.

 

[apsuman]

Hopefully to add to the discussion here...

Mage Armor and Plate Armor do not stack as they both provide the same type of bonus. In this case that type of bonus is an Armor Bonus.

Your friend's example has a +6 enhancement bonuse from one thing and a +8 enhancement bonus from another thing, they do not stack, they overlap. The +8 wins. And, yes the +8 is legal from a double empowered bulls' str.

Items of different types DO stack. So an amulet of natural armor +4 would stack with mage armor or plate armor since they are both armor bonuses.

g!

 

[Simulacrum]

Yes overlapping bonuses is ok, On the other hand having a grater enhancement bonus than +6 is ok too (with empower spell) as I think its not worth it.
You won the argument, on the other hand it's about as lame as it can get. Looking at polymorph that is in fact a 4th level spell and obviously has it's drawbacks (because you can only polymorph in certain forms etc..) is considered as buff spell. It's absolutely non buff. If you guys would think about it realisticaly it's double edged sword.
1st getting polymorphed by a wizard means to be his slave as he can deny you the return into your normal form and could get you into serious trouble. thats a roleplayish thing.
In a campaign things can get seroiusly wrong with such tactics if the DM is clever.
2.Polymorphing lots of people eats up great recources for little to none benefit in later levels.
3. Polymorphing yourself is always problematic as you have to wait until the duration runs out to return to your normal state again...as the TB version of the spell doesnt allows return without dispel magic being cast upon you.

 

[Thanee]

3. Polymorphing yourself is always problematic as you have to wait until the duration runs out to return to your normal state again...as the TB version of the spell doesnt allows return without dispel magic being cast upon you.

You should talk to your supplier, he got you the wrong book, I swear!

Bye
Thanee

 

[AuraSeer]

3. Polymorphing yourself is always problematic as you have to wait until the duration runs out to return to your normal state again...as the TB version of the spell doesnt allows return without dispel magic being cast upon you.

That's only partially true, because Polymorph Self is Dismissable. Ending the spell is a standard action, as long as you're in a form that can speak.

 

[Destil]

That's only partially true, because Polymorph Self is Dismissable. Ending the spell is a standard action, as long as you're in a form that can speak.

THANK YOU It just now, fainly clicked in the back of my mind. I have been wondering about it for months, if not longer!

Gaseous Form is the only PHB spell without a verbal component. And I just couldn't figure out why. But it makes so much sense when you point that out. The spell's dismissable, and usualy you need to speak the word of command to end a dismissable spell as a standard action. But you can't speak in Gaseous Form. So, clearly, the reason for the lack of a verbal component is that that would mean there's no verbal component to the word of command to dismiss it, allowing you to dismiss it. It all makes sense now!

Likewise, I guess silent spells can be dismissed with a simple thought, though still with a standard action...

Bards are stuck Gaseous until it ends, though... since they can't cast spells without verbal components... poor bards.

 

[Simulacrum]

wow thank you I didn't know that.
Cool.

 

[Spatzimaus]

"That means:
1: bonuses just never stack."

Someone should point out that certain types of like bonuses do stack. Dodge AC bonuses. Armor bonuses if one's armor and one's a shield. Enhancement bonuses for a bow and an arrow. That sort of thing.

 

[AuraSeer]

THANK YOU It just now, fainly clicked in the back of my mind. I have been wondering about it for months, if not longer!

Hey, glad I could help.

Likewise, I guess silent spells can be dismissed with a simple thought, though still with a standard action...

If a spell has no verbal component, it is dismissed by a gesture. The rules are listed under the "Duration" heading on this SRD page.

 

[Crothian]

So, if you silent spell polymorph self, can you dismiss it without the verbal component?