Standard attacks

[Raspen]

could you use freeze the life blood and death blow in the same round of combat if your BAB alows you too.

can you use death blow more then once a round?

can any standard action attack be used as an attack of opt.

 

[shilsen]

could you use freeze the life blood and death blow in the same round of combat if your BAB alows you too.

If you're referring to the Assassin's death attack as "death blow", then the answer is "yes." They cannot be used on the same attack, but if you have multiple attacks, they can be used in the same round.

can you use death blow more then once a round?

No. If the death attack is attempted and fails, you need to study the target again for 3 rds. And if it succeeds, then the target's dead.

can any standard action attack be used as an attack of opt.

No. An attack of opportunity is not a standard action, so any attack that requires a standard action to use is unusable during an AoO.

 

[Raspen]

im talking about the Death blow feat that lets you perform a coup de grace attack as a standard action.

 

[Len]

im talking about the Death blow feat that lets you perform a coup de grace attack as a standard action.

If it's a standard action, you can't use it as an attack of opportunity. You only get one standard action per round, on your turn.

 

[shilsen]

im talking about the Death blow feat that lets you perform a coup de grace attack as a standard action.

In that case, Len covered it.

 

[frankthedm]

What good is performing "a coup de grace attack as a standard action."? You can't CDG someone unless they are helpless, not prone, stunned, disabled or dazed. Plus helpless folks don't draw AoOs.

You'd need a feat or ability that makes "becoming helpless" in your threat draws an AoO and another feat or ability that lets you perform an AoO an attack action.

 

[RigaMortus2]

What good is performing "a coup de grace attack as a standard action."?.

Well, you get a Move Action before it (or after it, if you want to move away afterwards), so if you are not right next to someone, you could move up to them and do the CdG. Since a CdG is normally a full round action, you'd (normally) have to be right next to them before you can perform the CdG. It just saves you (maybe) a round of time in order to "finish someone off".

Not that much of a benefit, but that's "what good" it is...

Oh yeah, and there is also the "one round kill" trick... It is a combination of using any number of feats or spells to first get "an extra" attack on your turn, and then using Freezing the Life Blood, and then using the Standard Action to CdG them. All in one round, best if you win init and can pull it off before the opponent even gets to go.

Example:

[Move Action] to move up to someone.
(Sudden) Quicken Snake's Swiftness to get an immediate extra attack [Swift Action]. This attack yo use Freeze the Life Blood. If successful...
[Standard Action] Death Blow CdG
Note: Only works vs humanoids due to wording on Freezing the Life Blood.

I am sure there are much better "combos" out there to get a free "extra" attack, this was just the first one that popped into my head (because our Druid often uses Snake's Swiftness). Anyway, I am sure you get the idea...

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Thought of one more combo of how to pull this off...

PHB2 Wizard (Conjurerer) variant allows you to give up a familiar in order to get Abrupt Jaunt which allows you to teleport 10' as an immediate action, up to Int bonus/day. Sun School tactical feat (CW) allows you to get an immediate extra attack (at your highest BAB) whenever you are able to "instantly" move next to an opponent (such as from dimension door, or monk's abundant step ability).

So Abrupt Jaunt next to someone, get your free immediate attack from the Sun School, use Freezing the Life Blood),and then either do a Death Blow CdG (Standard Action) and you still have a Move Action left, or save yourself the feat and perfrom the normal CdG (Full Round Action).