Standing up from prone

[Darklone]

IIRC the PHB does not say you can't run while prone, right ? Or was that fixed?

Aren't there some feats around to get around this "prone and up" problem?

 

[Caliban]

IIRC the PHB does not say you can't run while prone, right ? Or was that fixed?

Aren't there some feats around to get around this "prone and up" problem?

That would be Prone Attack.

 

[green slime]

I agree with Caliban.

 

[Chairman7w]

Generally speaking, I tell my players that if you have to argue for a certain meaning to a rule, that's probably not the intended meaning. (Liberally stolen from Sulaco)

If you try an "angle" or "work around" to make a rule work, then I won't allow it as a DM. To me, If you're prone, then you take an AOO to get up, or you stay there and fight from a prone position. It's supposed to be a bad thing to be prone.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Generally speaking, I tell my players that if you have to argue for a certain meaning to a rule, that's probably not the intended meaning. (Liberally stolen from Sulaco)

So, all I have to do is argue the opposite of what I want?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Do you assume that if a feat gives you the ability to cast a spell, that it means that you do not have to follow the normal rules of spellcasting, just because you are using a feat?

Not at all.

But if it gives you the ability to produce the effect of a spell, do you need to follow the normal rules of casting the spell that would produce that effect?

If I have a feat that says that after a successful unarmed strike, I may take my opponent's weapon as a free action, do I need to make an opposed attack roll with modifiers for relative size, weapon designation, etc?

If it said I could attempt to disarm my opponent as a free action, the opposed attack roll would certainly be required. If it said I could disarm my opponent as a free action, it could be argued. But if it says I can take the weapon, is there enough there to warrant imposing the Disarm mechanics? The feat doesn't reference the Disarm action; can it not be the case that the feat allows me to end up with the opponent's weapon in my possession without taking the Disarm action at all?

-Hyp.

 

[Trellian]

What my players do to circumvent this is to crawl 5 feet and then stand up (providing that that square is not threatened).. is there anything preventing this method? Do the bad guys get an AoO when someone crawls 5 foot and then gets up?

 

[Lamoni]

What my players do to circumvent this is to crawl 5 feet and then stand up (providing that that square is not threatened).. is there anything preventing this method? Do the bad guys get an AoO when someone crawls 5 foot and then gets up?

Yes. Crawling 5 feet provokes an attack of opportunity. You are leaving a threatened square and it is not a 5' step. It has already been suggested that you can get around this with a DC 25 tumble check though. (15 to not provoke and +10 to move full speed). With the tumble check, you could do what you propose.

 

[KarinsDad]

But if it gives you the ability to produce the effect of a spell, do you need to follow the normal rules of casting the spell that would produce that effect?

So, is your argument that "regain your feet" is not the exact same phrase as "stand from prone", hence, it is a different game mechanic completely?

It is a new game mechanic that the feat gives, even though the feat does not spell out all of the rules for this new game mechanic?

 

[Hypersmurf]

So, is your argument that "regain your feet" is not the exact same phrase as "stand from prone", hence, it is a different game mechanic completely?

It is a new game mechanic that the feat gives, even though the feat does not spell out all of the rules for this new game mechanic?

What rules do we need to know? It's a free action, and it's not stated whether or not it provokes an AoO.

That's one more piece of information than we have about your 'kneel from prone' action

-Hyp.