Spoilers Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

[Ryujin]

I would rather there be a new series that captures the magic of DS9 than trying to revive the series itself. Let the old characters be! Bring in new characters and plotlines, but learn from the amazingness of DS9.

Bring in Tybee Diskin as Major Kira's daughter. There's a remarkable resemblance

 

[Staffan]

I would rather there be a new series that captures the magic of DS9 than trying to revive the series itself. Let the old characters be! Bring in new characters and plotlines, but learn from the amazingness of DS9.

I think doing so is impossible, unless they also step back to 90s TV production. The reason DS9 is so good is that we get to know the characters: Sisko, Kira, Dax, O'Brien, Bashir, Odo, Quark, Worf, other Dax, and Jake. There's also a whole lot of supporting cast that shows up again and again, both friends and foes. I know Garak, Nog, Winn, Weyoun, and so on. You don't get that kind of investment in a show that only has 10-15 episodes per season

 

[AnotherGuy]

I would rather there be a new series that captures the magic of DS9 than trying to revive the series itself. Let the old characters be! Bring in new characters and plotlines, but learn from the amazingness of DS9.

Are you saying the new ST series are lacking magic and that if we used the same writers of those new magic-lacking ST series, their writing would somehow improve to magic-catching quality because it was DS9's continuance rather than the Original or Next Gen?

 

[Ryujin]

I think doing so is impossible, unless they also step back to 90s TV production. The reason DS9 is so good is that we get to know the characters: Sisko, Kira, Dax, O'Brien, Bashir, Odo, Quark, Worf, other Dax, and Jake. There's also a whole lot of supporting cast that shows up again and again, both friends and foes. I know Garak, Nog, Winn, Weyoun, and so on. You don't get that kind of investment in a show that only has 10-15 episodes per season

That might not be as big a hurdle as you think it is, and rightfully should be. Strange New Worlds has already managed to make the characters engaging by having a familiar setting and context, so they don't need to spend as much time introducing those. DS9 has a lot of the same going for it. Cirroc Lofton still occasionally acts and they could drop Avery Brooks back into it, if he's willing, even just as a recurring guest in a Q like fashion.

 

[BookTenTiger]

Bring in Tybee Diskin as Major Kira's daughter. There's a remarkable resemblance

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I think the new series work much better when the connection to the old characters is "I trained with them" or "I'm related to them" or "I want revenge on them" than just bringing the old characters back. Those old characters already had big story arcs, and giving them new problems and flaws often robs them of their character growth.

 

[BookTenTiger]

Are you saying the new ST series are lacking magic and that if we used the same writers of those new magic-lacking ST series, their writing would somehow improve to magic-catching quality because it was DS9's continuance rather than the Original or Next Gen?

I'm saying learn from what made DS9 great rather than trying to reheat old leftovers.

 

[MarkB]

I think doing so is impossible, unless they also step back to 90s TV production. The reason DS9 is so good is that we get to know the characters: Sisko, Kira, Dax, O'Brien, Bashir, Odo, Quark, Worf, other Dax, and Jake. There's also a whole lot of supporting cast that shows up again and again, both friends and foes. I know Garak, Nog, Winn, Weyoun, and so on. You don't get that kind of investment in a show that only has 10-15 episodes per season

You can. Ted Lasso immediately comes to mind.

 

[overgeeked]

I think doing so is impossible, unless they also step back to 90s TV production. The reason DS9 is so good is that we get to know the characters: Sisko, Kira, Dax, O'Brien, Bashir, Odo, Quark, Worf, other Dax, and Jake. There's also a whole lot of supporting cast that shows up again and again, both friends and foes. I know Garak, Nog, Winn, Weyoun, and so on. You don't get that kind of investment in a show that only has 10-15 episodes per season

Exactly. Even at seven seasons of 10-15 episodes you’re only talking 70-105 episodes. Which is a lot, to be sure. Until you realize the 90s shows hit that mark around the end of season 5. Besides, modern productions don’t go to seven seasons. They do 3-4 before they’re cancelled. Which gives you 30-60 episodes...or the equivalent to 2-3 seasons of a 90s show.

 

[jian]

If you tried to make the DS9 version of Picard… well, you could, with Ezri, Garak, Julian, Kira, Quark, Worf, and maybe Miles. Brooks wouldn’t touch it. I think you’d mostly end up with a 6-8 episode nostalgia-fest with dark sci fi themes, probably similar to what was outlined in What We Left Behind - it’s 25 years later and some people have lost their way. You would need a younger generation - Jake, Molly, Jake’s younger brother, etc - to drive the storytelling.

 

[payn]

If you tried to make the DS9 version of Picard… well, you could, with Ezri, Garak, Julian, Kira, Quark, Worf, and maybe Miles. Brooks wouldn’t touch it. I think you’d mostly end up with a 6-8 episode nostalgia-fest with dark sci fi themes, probably similar to what was outlined in What We Left Behind - it’s 25 years later and some people have lost their way. You would need a younger generation - Jake, Molly, Jake’s younger brother, etc - to drive the storytelling.

Brooks has shared some interest but wanted strong racial justice themes to be part of the series.