Stargate Atlantis vs Battlestar Galactica

I tried a few episodes of SG:A, and the characters seemed about as deep as a bedsheet. Asd people, they were completely uninteresting. And the story didnt seem much more complicated, so they lost my viewing.

BG has characters written and acted with some depth, and that hooked me. "Soap opera" is bandied about as a derogatory term. But B5 was a soap opera. Anythign that's got a story arc and that is focused upon character is a "soap opera".
 

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Truth Seeker said:
Everyone be quiet, I see no one here has the viewing prowess to watch 5 hours of Sci Fic. So who is what superior...is moot. :D

Thats right...5 hours I said.

Andromeda, Stargate:SG1, Stargate:Atlantis, Battlestar Galactica . . . What else?
 

Umbran said:
I tried a few episodes of SG:A, and the characters seemed about as deep as a bedsheet. Asd people, they were completely uninteresting. And the story didnt seem much more complicated, so they lost my viewing.

BG has characters written and acted with some depth, and that hooked me. "Soap opera" is bandied about as a derogatory term. But B5 was a soap opera. Anythign that's got a story arc and that is focused upon character is a "soap opera".

Lets see; SGA, good sci-fi battles with the wraith, BSG, Starbuck liked apollos brother, now she likes apollo, SGA, Great story's on time travel, cryogenics, BSG, Boomer-galactica loves the chief, Boomer with helo likes helo. Six likes Boltar, Six likes Starbuck, Six likes Adama and on and on and on. A soap opera in space.

Scott
 

Point of note.....

Well, I watch both shows (and SG-1 and Andromeda and X-files - so that IS 5 hours of Sci Fi! ACK!) and I have to say SGA is better. BSG is improving, especially with the last episode (very strong I thought - fleshes out Baltar nicely).

As a point of note - Sci-Fi channel runs a SPLIT SEASON, starting in the late summer for about 8 weeks, and then there is a 10-12 week break right in the middle for the holidays, usually from the end of Spetember to mid January. So technically speaking, the reason things are "hitting stride" now is because each show's season is gaining steam and continuity to the story arc and consistent character development.
 

Doomed Battalions said:
Lets see; SGA, good sci-fi battles with the wraith, BSG, Starbuck liked apollos brother, now she likes apollo, SGA, Great story's on time travel, cryogenics, BSG, Boomer-galactica loves the chief, Boomer with helo likes helo. Six likes Boltar, Six likes Starbuck, Six likes Adama and on and on and on. A soap opera in space.

Scott
The thing about BSG is that its more about the characters than it is the overall goal. That is actually rare in Scifi, but doesn't make it any more 'soap opera-ey' than the X-Files is.

With BSG, we're dealing much, much more with the effects of losing everything that these people knew and loved. It wasn't by choice, and they're running for their lives. They can't stay and fight, because there aren't enough. So they have to keep running. Its a refreshing change from most Scifi, where characters are rarely so well developed.

Of course, I still love Stagate(SG-1 and Atlantis)
 

Dagger75 said:
So is this just me?

Probably, but Atlantis is a very watchable show. There's something about it that reminds me of DS9, but that doesn't detract from the enjoyment. BSG is just an awesome show. I've always wanted a nice and grim sci-fi show, and this is the first to actually deliver. This show was practically made to suit my individual tastes.
 

I'm having issues with SGA. For me, at least, it hasn't been holding my interest. I've got it on Season Pass, but it's the one I watch after watching the shows I really enjoy.

Random thoughts while watching different episodes:

First few: "The Wraith are dull. The Wraith are dull. The Wraith are dull. They're like someone tried to remake the goa'uld and slap a new look on them so that they all look like the Morlock king from that unwatchable Time Machine movie a few years back."

The "Society that is engineering an anti-Wraith serum" episode, "Poisoning the Well": I watched this episode on fast-forward and captions for about a third of its total length. My wife walked by, wondering what I was doing, and I said, "It's forty-three minutes in, and they're just now getting over their qualms and testing the thing on a willing volunteer. If this were Farscape, they'd have already tested the thing twenty minutes ago, and four people would have blown up from the poison, and also, someone would have vomited."

The one where the kids kill themselves at age 25: "Wow, this could also be a really interesting philosophical ques... no, no, they're going ahead and having the unpalatable side start trying to kill people to avoid any real moral issues. Whew. Almost had to think there for a sec."

I did like the season-half finale, with the new guy going all Die Hard and shouting, "Let me tell you what you just did wrong!" into the radio. That was fun. The little redhead girl was not at all believable as a commando, however, and the whole situation setting that world up as the bad guys felt forced.

Liked the recent one where it's one Wraith versus Sheppard. (And McKay helping) That one was fun and interesting.

Hated the time-travel one. Found it stupid. The notion that Weir changed the timeline was nice, but good God, you know you only have a few hours to live, your body is shutting down, and you feel it necessary to tell the story about the control room flooding? You feel it necessary to talk about political infighting? I understand that it's a show, and it was trying to tell an interesting story, but for crying out loud, if McKay were half as bad as he seems to be in some eps, he'd be shaking her by the shoulders and shouting, "Get to the point! Tell me that you asked questions about their technology? Tell me that you did some research before going into stasis? Tell me you actually found something beyond five stupid gate addresses that do little beyond set up future episodes!!!" If it had been told in the present tense for alterWeir, taking the audience through the events as they happened, and then at the end, we get to see the tragedy of her not being physically able to tell the new people what she'd discovered because she's too weak or because the stroke wiped out her verbal ability, it would have had real pathos. As it was, it struck my "Good lord, this is stupid" nerve.

(For an example of an interesting alter-us episode of a show, there was a Voyager episode where the crew is about to get home with an enhanced drive, only to have people and objects start degrading. They eventually realize that they are not the real crew -- they're duplicates from an earlier episode, made up of silvery goo with shapeshifting properties -- and they'd forgotten that. And the enhanced drive is killing them. At the end, they try to get the information to the real Voyager, and they fail... and while I had issues with much of Voyager, I liked that episode.

For comparison, this would be the equivalent of starting the episode by having the alterVoyager meet the real ship, and then having alterJaneway spend the entire episode talking about people's slow degradation and sadness and pathos and then saying, 'Oh, by the way, those enhanced warp drives might work for you, if you wanted to...' and then collapsing into goo after spending the entire time talking about character garbage instead of helping, like she was arguably trying to do.)

All completely subjective -- it could well be the state of mind I'm in these days, and I make no judgments of the people who like the show. :) And while I didn't like much of the "Sheppard gets it on with an Ancient" episode, I did love McKay's "Oh, god, he is Kirk," line.
 


Doomed Battalions said:
To you and others perhaps, but I much prefer SGA over BSG. BSG reminds me of a soap opera in space, not my kind of java.
If it's as good a "soap opera" as Deep Space Nine and Stargate: SG-1 (love the tension between O'Neill and Carter), then it's a very good thing.
 


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