STARGATE UNIVERSE # 16:Sabotage/Season 1/2010

[Beansock]

Interest in Alien ships

I've been following SGU since the start and I have to admit that I'm impressed with the consistency in good episodes in the second half of the season. I prefer how they have been using CGI for aliens intead of the old way where all aliens looked like humans.
The blue guys' interest in Destiny, I believe, is that they want to have control over the gate system. We saw in SG1 and Atlantis how crucial the gate system can be for many civilisations, in military power and also in trade etc. It appears that in these galaxies there are no DHD's and as said in episode 19 a keno control device is needed to activate the gate. Assuming that these aliens are capable of higher tech than the ancients who built destiny, then there are few reasons why they would take an interest in destiny, and control of the gate system seems to me to be the most prominent idea.
The gates themselves however are actually alot more high tech than the large ships we see on the blue guys' side, so perhaps they are in fact not as advanced as the ancients were.
As for the Lucien alliance, their introduction to the series is not necessary, it would allow for more dialogue and plot building due to ease in communications etc. between the two sides, but my opinion was that when they appeared in SG1 they were not as big a threat or as exciting of antagonists as the goa'uld had been, could this not be the same situation once more though this time with the BAs?
Chloe is the worst character on the ship. Eli, having been introduced first, for me was and continues to be my favourite interest onboard destiny, purely because I feel that I can relate to him more than any other characters, and probably alot of the fanbase can as he seems like the sort of character who would enjoy SciFi. Chloe's initial attempts to lead Eli on were aggrovating, and her current situation as concubine to Scott makes the audience pity her more.

My summation of what I expect from the rest of the season is as follows:

They will arrive in the new galaxy, gain access to more areas of the ship, discover new "bad guys" and we will be left with a cliff hanger, possibly with an assault on the ship or possibly careering towards a black hole at some point, in true Brad Wright/Cooper style.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

okay here's something that just bugs the crap outta me about the communication stone thing. wouldn't the SGC have some rules in place about you can't take the host body out and go screwing your spouse/significant other with it?

I know why they do it in the show for the the entertainment purposes, but it makes my brain hurt with the ethical implications of it. if the host didn't agree wouldn't it be rape? is there a waiver they have to sign so the destiny crew member can go off and boff their partners?

Well, maybe they have rules. And maybe they are loose, or people ignore them.

I suspect a host has to agree to a lot of things before he can become a candidate. And they might feel the need to give a lot of leeway because the situation is just impossible and so out of the realm of our normal experience.

 

[Jack7]

The blue guys' interest in Destiny, I believe, is that they want to have control over the gate system. We saw in SG1 and Atlantis how crucial the gate system can be for many civilisations, in military power and also in trade etc. It appears that in these galaxies there are no DHD's and as said in episode 19 a keno control device is needed to activate the gate. Assuming that these aliens are capable of higher tech than the ancients who built destiny, then there are few reasons why they would take an interest in destiny, and control of the gate system seems to me to be the most prominent idea.
The gates themselves however are actually alot more high tech than the large ships we see on the blue guys' side, so perhaps they are in fact not as advanced as the ancients were.

I wouldn't say the Blue Aliens are higher tech than the Ancients, per se, just higher tech in some ways than the Destiny. But if the Blue Aliens did infiltrate Destiny, as I suspect they did, and did discover something about her and from where she originated, they had to have concluded how old the ship was.

For instance if I discovered a transmission from an Earth source and that source was light years from home, and that transmission was also discovered to be several thousand years old, I could reasonably conclude that humans are either extinct, or have regressed, or are now (at the time of the discovery) far more advanced than when the transmission was first made.

This being science fiction there is often the tendency to conclude that the last possibility is the most likely, though it may not be so at all.

But it has also occurred to me that the Blue Aliens may want the Gate System, or technology related to it. Once established it is not only a fantastic form of travel and exploration, it is a fantastic form of communication. But I think that there is something more to it, like something perhaps related to Ascension. There is no evidence in that regard, but it's just a hunch I have from looking at the Blue Aliens. Watching how they act. That they would be interested in such an idea, even though I'm not sure how they could have come across such an idea strictly from an encounter with Destiny. (Though the name of the ship conjures up certain implications in this regard.)

But I think Rush also has an interest in Ascension as part of his "Destiny motivations."

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Hey, for all we know, the Blues are in much the same position as humanity: the bulk of their high-tech may be found/stolen from others.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Stolen? Humanity is not the Gou'ld. The majority of their tech was fairly traded for and given, not stolen. There was a major subplot in SG-1 about a splinter group that was stealing tech from other civilizations regardless of the consequences and the SGC's troubles stamping them out. Asguard tech was given to us, we were chosen to keep their legacy alive when they died. Ancient/Alteran tech is technically our birthright. Our DNA activates it!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Notice the word "found" before "/stolen"? Read my whole sentence, please.

My point is, like humanity, the Blues may not have reached their rung on the technological ladder by dint of their own inventiveness and discoveries. They may have had help, either by luck or alliance.

And, as hinted at in the second part of my clause- and as you discuss- they may have stolen their tech from other races. Its a device that has been used in other sci-fi settings (and other SG series), so why not SG:U? It does, after all, fit with their demeanor towards the humans aboard Destiny.

 

[Orius]

I never thought the Blues were interested in the Gate network, that's an interesting possiblity. One of my assumptions is that they might fear Destiny is prelude to an invasion from outside their galaxy. Think about it, first robot ships seed gates, and then Destiny or other similar ships follow up. So it might look like it's gathering intel and establishing footholds for an invasion.

Eli, Scott and Chloe returning to the ship this episdoe felt a bit anti-climatic after the build up from the last two episodes, but it makes sense in context. I wasn't expecting them to be seperated from the crew for long though.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

You know, that's a good point. Who knows how xenophobic the Blues are?

 

[Orius]

They might not even be terribly xenophobic to begin with, and they're just taking resonable precautions against what they might perceive to be a serious long-term threat. I bet humans suddenly showing up on Destiny probably did confirm any fears they might have about an invasion.

 

[Mark]

Eli, Scott and Chloe returning to the ship this episdoe felt a bit anti-climatic after the build up from the last two episodes, (. . .)

That was the single biggest thing that struck me about this episode.