STARGATE UNIVERSE #8:Time/Season 1/2009

I didn't watch much DS9 or Voyager -- hardly any of either, actually -- so maybe I'm not jaded by it. Still feels novel enough, and I very much enjoyed the character exploration. Time travel used to give us character insights = no problem by me at all.
 

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I think this is the first time I've ever seen a show or movie from the view point of a camera in the show/movie that actually made sense! :D
 

Loved this episode for a lot of the reasons other people have stated. I loved the way it ended as well, allowing the viewer to logically conclude that the second time-traveling kino got its point across. It avoided a "groundhog day" feeling of "do we have to do this again?" that I often find in time travel episodes of other shows.

I actually got a big grin on my face when the credits started rolling after the kino went through the gate. I feel like this was just the perfect spot to end the episode. Sometimes if there's too much time after a climax it can lessen the impact. If you can do it right and end just exactly at that climax and still give the viewers the impression that everything got wrapped up then that's a great ending.

And I do think that it was definitely implied that everything got wrapped up simply because of where it ended. If things had gone wrong again there would have been some hint of it, like, I dunno, the kino rolling onto Destiny in front of the confused Eli and Rush instead of into the past. It would've taken five seconds to imply further problems that would require a resolution, and the lack of those five seconds indicates that all is well.

And like others have said, extremely good use of the kinos as the point of view. At first I thought they were just being a little creative by telling the story purely through the kino, and I was not terribly impressed until we realized that the characters were watching the kino footage, just like us.

Here's something else that gets me. When Destiny jumped out of FTL before, it was for 12 hours. This episode, Destiny stayed at the planet about 36 hours instead. Why the change?

There's obviously some sort of AI in Destiny that's able to calculate things like the nearest source of what they need. It may not be self-aware like a lot of AIs in science fiction, but it's obviously a powerful computer. I think it made some sort of calculation that determined a reasonable amount of time for them to get what they need. Of course, Destiny may not realize it's dealing with humans and not Ancients, and we may be different enough that it can't accurately predict how much time we'll need, but I think it's at least making an effort.

And yes, I believe that Destiny discovered the water contaminant before the crew did, and this is why it went to that planet. Presumably the scout ship that seeded the gates and recorded information about the planets ahead of them would have gotten a sample of those creatures, and Destiny could probably have realized they had a high probability of providing a cure. Perhaps that was why it gave them three times the "standard" time of twelve hours, because it knew not only did the crew need time to gather these creatures, they needed time to figure out what they needed to gather.

The Destiny itself seems to almost be playing a god figure so far, kinda like the "Father" part of the Christian Trinity. It is aloof, inaccessible, and impossible to understand for the most part, but it tries to provide for its "children". It doesn't give handouts, though. The crew has to work for its rewards. There's a sense when they stop at a planet that Destiny has a plan for them on that planet, but it gives them no indication of what that plan is. I kinda like it.
 


There's a sense when they stop at a planet that Destiny has a plan for them on that planet, but it gives them no indication of what that plan is. I kinda like it.

Or maybe it is, and either Rush isn't noticing it because he's trying to do too much by himself, or the information is appearing in the database that is locked out.

There's also the more sinister possbility he does know, but he's not saying anything, though I don't find that likely, since holding back would screw him over just as much as the crew. I don't think he's that crazy.
 

Or maybe it is, and either Rush isn't noticing it because he's trying to do too much by himself, or the information is appearing in the database that is locked out.

There's also the more sinister possbility he does know, but he's not saying anything, though I don't find that likely, since holding back would screw him over just as much as the crew. I don't think he's that crazy.


I think Rush knows and is passing on the needs of the crew to the ship and seeing how the ship responds. I think if he gave the ship the command to return to point of origin, it would. I also am starting to feel that the kino's are not just for the crew to use but are eyes for the ship, gathering information on the crew. It is one of the stories I hope they touch on this season, the AI and how much aware it is.

Still, think there is the rest of the ship to show us!
 

I think Rush knows and is passing on the needs of the crew to the ship and seeing how the ship responds. I think if he gave the ship the command to return to point of origin, it would.

We know that Rush can tell the ship what the crew needs, or at least, he's said it before (the first episode, when Rush told the ship they needed air). But I really do think he cannot control the ship to the point you think. I think Rush would very much enjoy the ability to control the ship and if he had this ability we would've seen some sign of this before now, even if he was trying to keep it a secret. For example, he could have slowed down Destiny to let the shuttle catch up in the Light episode.

But there's no way Rush could have told the ship that they needed a cure to a disease nobody knew they had. Either the ship figured that out itself or it was a huge coincidence that the creatures on this planet had the cure in their venom.
 

I think Rush knows and is passing on the needs of the crew to the ship and seeing how the ship responds. I think if he gave the ship the command to return to point of origin, it would. I also am starting to feel that the kino's are not just for the crew to use but are eyes for the ship, gathering information on the crew. It is one of the stories I hope they touch on this season, the AI and how much aware it is.

Still, think there is the rest of the ship to show us!


Rush has said that primary command functions are locked out and that they havn't even gotten access to the ships primary bridge yet.

Even IF they told the ship to "go home" and return to point of origin it would still take thousands of years.
 

The ship is smart enough to figure out what is in the water and that it hurts the passengers but not smart enough to do so in advance. Can it fix its own filters to purify the rest of the water? Will the passengers all be carriers of something but compensating with the venom-serum-cure?
 

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