Olgar Shiverstone
Legend
Not remotely the most evil thing to happen in Detroit, just sayin'.
In fact, it appears downright tame and respectful to me.
In fact, it appears downright tame and respectful to me.
I'm aware. But from none of the old testament bits do you get an origin story for an individual.
In the Jewish tradition as I understand it, Satan is by no means fallen. It is instead an *agent* of G-d (and so, not in need of an origin story), whose job it is test people.
I am fully aware of all that. However, it is still Satan in that text. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to reconcile the conflict between Satan as a literal entity, and Satan as a metaphorical one.
The whole point is that the "origin story" of Satan is not necessarily as mentioned upthread, and there's not really much of physical description, either. That's the only point I'm trying to make.
What I meant re: protest or true belief was to say, placement of a statue as a protest would not satisfy the purpose of a location set aside for religious displays. Whether such a location can or should be created by the state is a good question, but a separate matter. And, one could truly believe that state sponsored sites are contrary to the law (here in the USA), that doesn't make a protest statue representative of the protester's religious beliefs.
To ban it purely for its content, you'd actually have to PROVE that a piece of art was either "obscene" (see a bunch of rulings at the state and federal level) or equivalent to shouting "Fire!" in a theater or "Kill that cop!"- the prospective harm would have to be recognizable and immanent.My mistake re: that the statue was offensive. Displays which are meant to be intimidating was what I was thinking about. I wonder whether "causing public disorder with a strong likelyhood of violence" would matter.
To ban it purely for its content, you'd actually have to PROVE that a piece of art was either "obscene" (see a bunch of rulings at the state and federal level) or equivalent to shouting "Fire!" in a theater or "Kill that cop!"- the prospective harm would have to be recognizable and immanent.
What I meant re: protest or true belief was to say, placement of a statue as a protest would not satisfy the purpose of a location set aside for religious displays.
I wonder whether "causing public disorder with a strong likelyhood of violence" would matter.
I suppose I took a long way around to say it, and I hope it was at least an interesting journey, but my ultimate point is that works beyond the bible and the torah need be remembered when looking to find the "origin stories" of biblical figures.
tomBitoni said:placement of a statue as a protest would not satisfy the purpose of a location set aside for religious displays
The fact that some Christians wouldn't like it doesn't make it any less of a religious display.