Storm of Blades + Planeshaper + Epic Resurgence

the8bitdeity

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I had a player pull of the following combos, and I'm trying to find out if I'm missing anything illegal

1) War Chanter uses action point giving all PCs +7 hit / dmg
2) Warden with Barb MC uses Storm of Blades with a reckless weapon +5. For merely a -2 AC penalty he gets 8 attacks with an additional 10 dmg.
3) Spends an action point and does Storm of Blades again, getting 8 more attacks which are all affected by War Chanter and Reckless.
4) One of those attack rolls is a critical, triggering Epic Resurgence.

This means one player can on one turn get 16 attack rolls at +7 / +17.

He literally one shotted the Ancient Black Dragon I had for the whole group to fight.

Am I missing some rules?

My personal thoughts on the matter
1) Reckless should only be allowed once per turn, or cumulative penalties for the AC (currently neither is RAW)
2) War Chanter's bonus should only apply to the next attack they make? Or something? Seems excessive with Storm of Blades
3) Storm of Blades is ultimately the real issue at hand. The rest of the party was giving him the stink eye because no one else got to attack the dragon.

(This was a delve btw, not an ongoing campaign)

Thoughts?

EDIT:
Level 25 Delve Characters BTW
 
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Reckless only applies to a single attack, I believe, not all attacks of a power. The rules use "attack" both to refer to single attacks and to entire attack powers, so it's not clear just from that word what they mean. Since the description refers to "that attack's damage roll", though, that implies it's just a single attack. So your warden would only have had the +10 damage on a single attack.

As you said, though, Storm of Blades is the real problem. You've presumably seen the furor over Rain of Blows, and Storm of Blades offers up to twice as many attacks, and none of them are conditional.
 


As you said, though, Storm of Blades is the real problem. You've presumably seen the furor over Rain of Blows, and Storm of Blades offers up to twice as many attacks, and none of them are conditional.

Storm of Blows offers upt to 10 attacks in theory but they are all conditional on the previous one hitting. (Probably "not rolling a 1" in most cases if you build for it.

I think the Warchanter AP effect may be a little too good ...... (Reckless weapon is commonly seen as too strong too)
 

Reckless only applies to a single attack, I believe, not all attacks of a power. The rules use "attack" both to refer to single attacks and to entire attack powers, so it's not clear just from that word what they mean. Since the description refers to "that attack's damage roll", though, that implies it's just a single attack. So your warden would only have had the +10 damage on a single attack.

As you said, though, Storm of Blades is the real problem. You've presumably seen the furor over Rain of Blows, and Storm of Blades offers up to twice as many attacks, and none of them are conditional.

Reckless is a free action, and in no way limited per turn. Essentially it's
Reckless->Attack->Reckless->Attack ....
 


Storm of Blows offers upt to 10 attacks in theory but they are all conditional on the previous one hitting. (Probably "not rolling a 1" in most cases if you build for it.
Man, I'm just misreading everything today. But yes, you'd think they would have learned that "until you miss" isn't a sufficient limiting factor after Blade Cascade. Storm of Blades is almost the same thing except as an encounter power instead of a daily.
 

How is the penalty not cumulative? It's not typed.

What are the rules for using Powers during other powers.. it says "Use this power before making a melee attack against an adjacent target. You gain a power bonus to that attack’s damage roll" - but can you even activate the power if you're in the middle of another power? I'm not clear on how that works
 

How is the penalty not cumulative? It's not typed.

What are the rules for using Powers during other powers.. it says "Use this power before making a melee attack against an adjacent target. You gain a power bonus to that attack’s damage roll" - but can you even activate the power if you're in the middle of another power? I'm not clear on how that works

1: pg 275,
Penalties: Unlike bonuses, penalties don’t have types.
Penalties add together, unless they’re from the same power.
If two monsters attack you with the same power and each
causes you to take a penalty to a particular roll or score,
you don’t add the penalties together; you take the worst
penalty.

2: I have no clue how to rule this, hence it seems valid. Much like the Swordmage's Free Action to change grips, it seems ambiguous.
 
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3) Spends an action point and does Storm of Blades again
How did he spend an action point to do this again? Martial Mastery doesn't work because Storm of Blades is a primal power.

But otherwise, yes: Storm of Blades is amazing. A warden can easily take the level 17 encounter power that gives a target a penalty to AC (and reflex) equal to his Con - which could be as much as 8 - and then multi into barbarian and pick up Storm of Blades. Using two encounter powers and an action point, they could hit pretty easily 9 times. And honestly the warden could be using a bloodclaw weapon instead of the reckless one - he's got the HP to take it, and using it two-handed means another +enhancement bonus to damage.

One legit way to get the power back: use a Torc of Power Preservation after using Storm of Blades the first time.
 

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