Succubus Vampire Rogue 7

[Jaxom]

I'm in the process of making a Succubus Vampire 7th level Rogue. I know its seems like the kind of thing Bruce R. Cordell would do, but I'm curious what some of you as players or DM's might think of such a creature.

Here's a list of Feats I picked for her and since I advanced her to 12 HD I was able to give her an extra Feat;

Succubus:
Dodge
Mobility
Spring Attack

Vampire:
Alertness
Combat Reflexes
Improved Initiative
Lightning Reflexes

Rogue:
Two-Weapon Fighting
Expert Tactician

BAB = 22/17/12/7


And if she's using Two-Weapon Fighting and Expert Tactician with a +5 weapon I believe this is how her attacks would look.

Two-Weapon 23/18/13/8/ Off-Hand 21 (-6 Primary hand and -4 Off-Hand)

Expert Tactician gives the extra attack at +27

Did I calculate the above attacks correctly?

 

[Hypersmurf]

I'm in the process of making a Succubus Vampire 7th level Rogue. I know its seems like the kind of thing Bruce R. Cordell would do, but I'm curious what some of you as players or DM's might think of such a creature.

Well, the first thing I'd say is :

"Succubus (Tanar'ri) : Medium-size Outsider"

"Vampire is a template that can be applied to any humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature."

... so no Succubus Vampires.

Apart from that...

BAB = 22/17/12/7


And if she's using Two-Weapon Fighting and Expert Tactician with a +5 weapon I believe this is how her attacks would look.

Two-Weapon 23/18/13/8/ Off-Hand 21 (-6 Primary hand and -4 Off-Hand)

Expert Tactician gives the extra attack at +27

Did I calculate the above attacks correctly?

No.

Firstly, we need to know whether you're using a light weapon in your off-hand.

The penalties for using two weapons are -6/-10. You have Two Weapon Fighting, but not Ambidexterity, so they are reduced to -4/-8. If the off-hand weapon is light, they drop again to -2/-6.

With a BAB of 22, this gives you :

(Light weapon) +20/+15/+10/+5 and +16
(Non-light weapon) +18/+13/+8/+3 and +14

... not taking into account enhancement bonuses on the weapons.

The attack from Expert Tactitian, whenever it applies, is at your full BAB (+22)... but if you make any attacks with your off-hand weapon in the same round, you have to take into account the primary hand penalties for TWF with that attack - so +20 or +18 if you're using your off-hand.

All make sense?

-Hyp.

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

Re: Re: Succubus Vampire Rogue 7

Well, the first thing I'd say is :

"Succubus (Tanar'ri) : Medium-size Outsider"

"Vampire is a template that can be applied to any humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature."

... so no Succubus Vampires.

Apart from that...





-Hyp.

Hey, in Heart of Nightfang Spire there's a Gibbering Mouther Vampire, and that's a WoTC module. So I would guess that a outsider vampire is okay.
I would generally say, that most templates could be added to most types of creatures, at least in special cases, unless it makes absolutely no sense, i.e. no half-dragon dragons etc.

-Sorcica

 

[demon_jr]

what is the background behind this character?

in my opinion, the storyline is usually an integral part.

 

[gtJormungand]

Re: Re: Re: Succubus Vampire Rogue 7

Hey, in Heart of Nightfang Spire there's a Gibbering Mouther Vampire, and that's a WoTC module. So I would guess that a outsider vampire is okay.
I would generally say, that most templates could be added to most types of creatures, at least in special cases, unless it makes absolutely no sense, i.e. no half-dragon dragons etc.

-Sorcica

(possible spoiler warning)
There is a special reason for this gibbering mouther... he wasn't like that beforehand. It just happens that his burnt remains were animated by some semi-powerful artifact; it's not like those things follow many rules. I like the way that they did it, even if it was slightly against the letter of the rules.

-gtJormungand

 

[the Jester]

Re: Re: Re: Succubus Vampire Rogue 7

Hey, in Heart of Nightfang Spire there's a Gibbering Mouther Vampire, and that's a WoTC module. So I would guess that a outsider vampire is okay.
I would generally say, that most templates could be added to most types of creatures, at least in special cases, unless it makes absolutely no sense, i.e. no half-dragon dragons etc.

-Sorcica

Well, what about the halfbreed dragon? In other words, a half blue dragon red dragon??

 

[Jaxom]

It's funny that some of you mention The Heart of Nightfang Spire since this Succubus Vampire is being used as a lead into the sequel of that adventure. I just thought of it as a good combination to bring the demons and the undead sides together for continuity.

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Succubus Vampire Rogue 7

Well, what about the halfbreed dragon? In other words, a half blue dragon red dragon??

Touche´

Well, I hope I hope everyone got my point anyway

-Sorcica