Super SPOILER FILLED Serenity thread

[LightPhoenix]

I'll just echo here what everyone else is saying - Wash's death was both tragic after his heroic flying, but also made me wonder if anyone was going to make it. Especially Simon; when he got shot I was sure he was gonna die.

For me, the absolute best scene in the movie is Simon breaking River out. It really cemented the fact that they're close, perhaps closer than any of the rest of Serenity. There may be love amongst the rest of the crew, but Simon and River make it all seem less so. Also, Simon kicking some butt is always cool.

I said it in the rating thread, but I really think the story would have worked better in TV format, with Joss having the opportunity to spread it out a bit. One big example is Mr. Universe... was I supposed to care he died? I might have more if he had been built up. Same with River and Miranda... here's a planet that's not in any database, but River looks it up in Serenity's computer? It seemed to come out of the blue, and with some foreshadowing could have worked a lot better. I would have liked to see Mal start to fall, as it were, after Inara left, driving off Book, driving off the Tams, starting to alienate his crew even. Book's death was another plot point that would have worked better as part of the series... in the movie, it really felt tacked on, and only the fact that I've seen the series makes his death any more poignant than Universe's.

River's a voyeur!!!

 

[Nifft]

A great movie.

Anyone else notice the similarities in commando tactics between Early, The Operative, and Book? I think there's a colony of well-spoken black men who are trained as secret commandos.


Anyone else notice that the movie was basically a state Ninja vs. a ship full of Pirates? And at last we see that Pirates are clearly superior.

-- N

 

[Dark Jezter]

Very good film.

Of course, I was upset by the fact that Book and Wash died, but Inara survived. But hey, what are you gonna do?

 

[ThirdWizard]

People at the theater were totally into it. They were clapping and laughing and on and on, and it was great! It was like being in a room with 200 other Firefly fans! Oh wait... it was being in a room with 200 other Firefly fans!

I was sad when Wash died. It was just like... wow... he's... he's... dead... It took a while to sink it. I think my first reaction was "What? What was that?" unable to believe what I saw. But, no, he was dead. Dang...

And, Book! Arg! I'm so sad they killed Book. He was my favorite character. I was hoping we would eventually find out about his past, but alas, we won't... That could have been a movie in itself, but I think Joss doesn't expect another chance, so he's wrapping up some stuff to give closure to viewers. I thank him for that.

I think Book used to be and Operative of Parliment before he became a sheppard.

Last night I predicted that that would be the big spec from the movie. But, I can't agree with it at all. The Operative had no name, no rank, and no records. The Alliance guy knew he had clearance, but nothing more about him. Of course, we go back to the Ident Card scene, which is one of the big eye popping moments for Book. They seem to think he is someone important, more imporant than some guy with no name, no rank, and no record.

Besides, can an Operative just leave? We'd have to assume extremely unlikely circumstances in which Book was not only able to leave his position, but gain some kind of high status which would allow him to not only be free to move about but also to carry clout with the Alliance.

I don't think he was an Operative.

I don't think the Operative lived past the last scene. I'm almost positive he chose to fall on his sword. Remember his speach at the beginning? People that fail should kill themselves -- and he failed.

Agreed, grasping for one last bit of honor.

 

[Dagger75]

Mr Universe stuff

I read the novilization of Serenity and they go into greater detail of this Mr Universe.

Was knew him back in pilots school. Wash was the 2nd best pilot in the class, that guy was number 1. He had no idea how to fly though so he just reprogrammed the flight sims to make him pass and then would reprogram autopilots on the real ship to fly. And if that didn't work he hacked the computers to change his grades. Was basically cornered the guy after graduation and the guy told him he just wanted a pilots liscense, to go with all his other degrees. Wash could have told on him but instead he used as leverage to et info and other stuff on him.

Mr Universe also has a major crush on Zoe.

 

[Wolf72]

Especially Simon; when he got shot I was sure he was gonna die.

me too ... his con might be okay, but he's definitely only got d4's for HD ... maybe with the toughness feat.

Mr Universe also has a major crush on Zoe.

... well had anyway

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Wash's death did open the door for anything to happen, which lead to a lot higher level of suspense for the end of the movie. I was positive River was dead, but I was never worried about Mal.

I had the exact opposite reaction. While I thought that there was a chance Mal might die (and even not complete his mission), as well as the rest of the crew at various points, I was always confident that River would survive, even after the shot of her desperately reaching out before the blast doors shut.

I just knew she'd be kicking butt, and I also couldn't see Joss sentencing any of his female characters to a fate (literally) worse than death at the hands of the Reavers.

 

[WayneLigon]

I was pretty astounded. As a rule I generally don't seek out spoilers on a show or movie, but the two I had seen (one which said this occured between two episodes of the show, and one which said all the actors had signed contracts for two more movies - both of which were obviously wrong, unless we see them in flashbacks) made me totally blind to the idea both Book and Wash could die I can see it, and I know it's always a possibility in a Wedon show, but it was still shocking.

Loved the origin of the Reavers.

 

[Greylock]

Those guys made an appearance in the Serenity comic mini-series - three issues which span the time between the TV series and movie.

"Two by two, hands of blue"

Up until a month or so ago, I hadn't bought a comic book in over twenty years.

It really freaked out the staff at Comics & Collectibles when I wandered away from the RPG aisles and started looking at the comics. Fellow I know there, Sean, asked me what was wrong.

I have the comics.

I must say a very sincere thanks to Randomlings House for FINALLLLY selling me on Firefly.

 

[Meloncov]

There was one shot where I thougt the Reavers had gotten the better hand over River. When combined with the fact that the setup for a final heroic sacrifice was in place I thought she was a gonner.