Super SPOILER FILLED Serenity thread

[Arnwyn]

An excellent movie, but Wash's death (Book's a bit, but less so) disappointed me. No question that it was good for the movie and increased the tension marvelously, but my fanboy side didn't take it very well.

I know for certain that I don't care to see any more of Firefly, in terms of any possible sequels or a new tv series - this movie was the end of Firefly for me. The movie (and bridging comics) tied up everything very well, and made a great ending of the series.

 

[Rackhir]

Killing Walsh shouldn't have been quite so unexpected. He did the same thing to Doyle at the end of the first season of Angel and for much the same reasons. Though it made Walsh's death no less, shocking, effective or sad.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Interesting--I didn't get the impression that the Operative hated Mal at all. He was a zealot, and he prided himself on breaking the eggs you gotta break to make an omelette. His identity was built around being passionless--or, rather, for having a passion only for utopia. What a lethal villain, therefore!

Zealots don't bend: they break. Mal captured the zealot, and showed him the utopia for which the Operative was working. That utopia was Miranda, a planet that the Alliance had made peaceful and free of fighting.

And, in the process, killed thirty million people, and spawned a group of psychotic cannibalistic murderers; and whose existence they'd covered up. Had they learned from their hideous error? No: they were sending out an assassin, a zealot--him--to kill enough people that nobody would ever learn the lessons of the error. He wasn't on a mission for utopia; he was on a mission to cover up Hell.

The zealot, on seeing his dream turn out to be a nightmare, could not adjust himself to the new reality. He could not modify his plans. His plans shattered.

It was beautiful.

Daniel

The most terrible thing about the Operative was he believed that no matter how evil he was the outcome justified it. He knew his utopian dream did not have a place for him but that was okay as long as it created that utpoia. To find out there is no garden of eden made him start to think for himself and gave him freedom of choice.

It was beautiful.

So, how many saw that Utopia as a stab at the ST: Fed

 

[Mallus]

So, how many saw that Utopia as a stab at the ST: Fed

I saw the Alliance/Utopia as a stab at something we shouldn't talk about on this board...

 

[danzig138]

He did the same thing to Doyle at the end of the first season of Angel and for much the same reasons.

Hopefully, no one reading this is waiting to see Angel S1. And just to note, Hero was the 9th episode of the season.

 

[BiggusGeekus]

I saw the Alliance/Utopia as a stab at something we shouldn't talk about on this board...

The political angle you mean?

You know it's funny. I read a lot of news and opinion sites. Both sides are claiming the Alliance represents the worst of "the other side".

And on that note I do believe I shall refrian from further commentary.

 

[Mallus]

The political angle you mean?

Yup.

You know it's funny. I read a lot of news and opinion sites. Both sides are claiming the Alliance represents the worst of "the other side".

I though it ever-so-gently implicated both sides. Its a pretty loose sort of allegory.

And on that note I do believe I shall refrian from further commentary.

'Reckon I should too.

 

[jester47]

I think that the Shepard was the General that won the battle of serenity valley. The alliance ship reaction to him was sort of like he was a hero. I think that is why Book never told Mal his history. He knew that if he did, Mal would kill him without a second thought.

If there is another movie, I think it will cover Blue Sun and Books past. They could use some flashback to explain some things. The third movie would deal with Inara's past.

 

[dravot]

Yup.

I though it ever-so-gently implicated both sides. Its a pretty loose sort of allegory.

'Reckon I should too.

Which is weird to me, cause I rarely, if ever assign a political ideology to that type of gubbermint-gone-wrong scenario.

Maybe I'm just naive.

 

[Rykion]

Of course, the Operative couldn't beat Mal in an unfair fight, so I'm not sure how he expected to be able to take down River...

He wouldn't have been a match for River when she is in control of herself, but she really never was until finding the truth of Miranda set her free. The Operative would also know the safety words to shut River down.

Something occurred to me at work last night... why didn't the crew loot Miranda? Within a couple of hours they would have netted enough money for all of them to retire...

Most of their contacts for selling "hot" items were dead. Miranda seemed to be an Alliance pet project so any item of worth would have Alliance markings. Mal also had his plan to kite in the Reavers. Would Serenity have been fast enough to outrun those reavers with a full cargo hold?