Super SPOILER FILLED Serenity thread

RE: The Reaver propogations:

I agree, I'm not proposing that it's the way it happens, but it's just nice to know that there are several plausible explanations on how it's done, so that they're always a distant threat to people on the edge of the system.

And darn it, now the movie's gotten me itching to pick up the Firefly RPG from Sovereign Stone... :confused:
 

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Richards said:
Mal: "How's she holding up?"

Zoe: "She's seen better days, but she'll make it through all right."

Again, there were two levels to this conversation: they were discussing the physical status of Serenity, and the emotional status of Zoe. A very well-written piece, and in character for both.

Johnathan
I think he's talking about Zoe, Serenity, the Crew, the show, and River.

I didn't much like the scene where Simon busts River out. As someone else pointed out, Simon has d4 hitpoints. He shouldn't be kicking ass. It seemed really out of character to me, although I understand why they did it.

The Operative really makes me want to throw a Lawful Good villian into my game. Or maybe a blackguard.

Why did the Alliance gas 30 million people without, I dunno, testing the stuff on chimpanzees in England first?

I love the "I am a leaf on the wind" line. Especially since he is dead when he lands.

Am I the only one who noticed Buffy's cameo? Dang, I can't find a picture anywhere. It's the image from "Welcome to the Hellmouth," and it appears at the end of the Season 1 credits...

Spider

EDIT: Er, maybe it was season 3. Still looking for a screenshot. :)
 
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Pielorinho said:
I sort of thought that was the point: Zoe was so devastated by Wash's death that she defied her military training. Very, very few things could make her do this. Even watching her husband being tortured by Niska couldn't make her do this.

Daniel
And you'll note that even though she defied her training, she still stayed relatively cool through the fighting. She wasn't able to completely break from her training. Zoe rocks.
 


OK, it's not as perfect as I'd like...I'll have to wait for the DVD release to show a real comparison. But these are the shots I'm talking about:

Spider
 

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Palantir said:
I was very happy with the movie overall.

As for Joss killing characters... while I know that Mr. Whedon has no problem with killing off main characters, I think that, in this case, it was more that Alan had other projects and couldn't (or wouldn't) guarantee that he would be available for the filming of other movies. I found it interesting that the two characters that were killed off were Book (Glass was never a big sci-fi fan, and (I think) wasn't particularly attached to this project) and Wash (Tudyk probably more movie credits than any of the cast, including I, Robot last year).

As for looting Miranda... Mal had Serenity rebuilt at the end of the movie. I was in shock over Wash and all, but even through that, I was thinking, "Where did Mal get the money to rebuild his ship?" Maybe Mr. Universe had some old ships laying around that were scavenged? Or maybe there were some Miranda trinkets that were traded... ;)

I also found it odd that Zoe was the one to break ranks in the final fight with the Reavers. While she did undergo a deep and immediate trauma, she was also the only hardened military veteran of the Unification War on the line. I would have expected one of the less disciplined members of the crew to break a defensive position first. And did anyone else think about what the Reavers must have done to poor Wash's body once the crew abandoned Serenity? *shivers*

Question I had with the Reavers... if they were caused by the drug that was administered, does that mean that their offspring (children born off-world) would NOT be Reavers? Is this a society that will be dead when the last of the children that were on Miranda die?

Those are my observations. Mostly though, I watched in rapt glee as Mr. Whedon brought me one more installment of my favorite BDHs. Serenity, while a bit glitzier, still felt like the rundown home we had all come to know and love throughout the series. My knowledge of the crew from the series only enhanced my enjoyment of the movie, and I eagerly await the next movie (which I promise to watch at least three times in the theater and buy on DVD too). :)

Mr. Whedon, if you are reading this, thank you so much for writing a movie for the fans. The plot was wonderful, the characters wonderfully flawed, three-dimensional, and real, and your efforts are very much appreciated. As much as you can, please try not to be hurt or dismayed by the occasional negative review... it's much harder to create than it is to destroy, and those critics haven't created anything to make me give them any respect. They just have a big microphone. Serenity, just like Firefly, is clearly a labor of love, and us Browncoats appreciate your labor. Thank you.

See you in the world.

-Palantir

Thankfully (and deservedly so) the movie is getting excellent reviews. On Rotten Tomatoes, it's at 80%, with 118 reviews, which is incredible in itself for a sci-fi movie. And IMDB has it at 8.6 with 8004 votes.

Unfortunately, it sure doesn't look like it's doing too well. $10M isn't a stellar opening weekend. Maybe people are waiting? I think some people are waiting, since they haven't seen the show yet. I've got people at work that I know didn't go, since they're waiting to see the TV show, or weren't sure what the movie was about.

Of course, it would be interesting to see how much more it's pulling in outside of the U.S.

Hopefully it turns around, and makes a good profit, so we can get a second movie.

Banshee
 

Rackhir said:
Killing Walsh shouldn't have been quite so unexpected. He did the same thing to Doyle at the end of the first season of Angel and for much the same reasons.
Alan Tudyk doesn't have a heroin addiction that makes him massively unreliable, as far as I know.
 

The Alliance probably did test the drug - and on humans as well as chimps. But they probably didn't test the gas the same way they used it. Testing would be easiest with doses of Pax (like an inhaler), but the people on Miranda were breathing it day in, day out for who knows how long.
 

Given the prominence of the Blue Sun Corporation, and how it seems to have strong ties to the Alliance, I wouldn't be surprised if they simply bypassed the Serenity-verse's equivalent of the FDA by marketing PAX as a non-medicinal sort of drug, without any research into its long-term effects.
 

I was afraid all of the advance screenings would hurt the opening gross of Serenity -- I wonder if that is a contributing factor.

How much money did those screenings take in? Can that total be added to the film's gross? Or did it get counted toward the weekend grosses of the movies which lost a showing to the advance screenings? I know that is how the grosses are handled for sneak previews. But those are completed movies. How do they handle advance screenings of unfinished movies?
 

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