Super SPOILER FILLED Serenity thread

[Just_Hal]

Went to see it twice this weekend (which is opening weekend here in the UK). Loved it just as much the second time as the first. I thought there were plenty of western trappings: The accents, the clothes, the vocabulary, the guns. True, they were mixed up with other stuff, but then they always were.

As it was about to start (the first viewing), I thought 'this is going to be great', followed by 'oh god, am I setting myself up for massive disappointment'. I wasn't.

I didn't even mind the new slimline Kaylee, which was the one thing I was worried about. I guess Jewel Staite can't just look bad whatever she does. Plus, with the comments about food shortages, her weightloss kinda made sense.



glass.

hey Glass when they post weekend numbers for the UK will ya post a link for us?

 

[Rel]

I saw it for the first time yesterday and I loved it. In fact this is one of those movies that the more it rattles around in my brain, the MORE I love it. It makes me want to see the rest of the Firefly episodes I haven't seen (I've only seen about 4 of them), it makes me want to see a sequel and it makes me want to play a Serenity RPG.

I know this is a very weird (and entirely lopsided) contrast to make but since I saw them both in the same weekend...D&D2 v. Serenity (ok, even typing them next to each other makes me feel a little dirty).

The little touches in terms of dialogue and acting completly made Serenity the success that it was and the poor quality of same made D&D2 mediocre at best. And we're not talking about "A List" actors in either case.

A good story, good dialogue and good acting can really take you far and those things have very little to do with your budget. Done right, the small things can really turn an ok concept into something golden. When I think about Serenity I think about Inara's expression going from welcoming to stony when she meets The Operative. I think about the eye roll that River gives her brother when he asks, "Am I speaking to 'Miranda' right now?" The way Kaylee regains her will to live at the prospect of her crush being fulfilled. And how Jayne is so excited about getting to bring along his grenades.

I guess what I'm saying is that I really think a case can be made for Serenity being a "textbook" example for future film makers to look at in terms of how to make characters that the audience will care about.

Anyway, bravo to Joss Whedon and sign me up for whatever he's doing next.

 

[rob4]

Oh, and one other thing that bugged me (reading some of the earlier posts made me remember it): I hate how one man can take so much [lethal] damage, yet keep on going. The captain (sorry, his name didn't stick. Mal?) got shot in the back (close range), stabbed in the gut with a sword (by a professional assassin), beat about by a man who quickly/easily killed two bodyguards earlier in the show, and still walked away from the scene.

Quasqueton

I'd like to point out that the gun that he was shot with was not a firearm, but some sort of stun weapon. If you haven't seen the show then it's less obvious, but in the scene right before he bails out of the ship he's on, the Operative grabs the gun off a dead Alliance soldier. In the series we often see the Alliance soldiers using taser-like stun weapons. In the movie, you can sort of tell this because there's a crackling electrical effect when Mal is shot by the gun, but it could have been a little more obvious.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

. What purpose did Inara serve? Why was she part of the crew? What did she bring to the table?

What does anyone bring to the table with river on the team? Oh wait they can make witty lines. If they want a shock death in the next movie kill River, it will make the movie a gajillion times better.

 

[John Cooper]

Rel: Anyway, bravo to Joss Whedon and sign me up for whatever he's doing next.

That would be a film version of Wonder Woman. No joke.

 

[Just_Hal]

What does anyone bring to the table with river on the team? Oh wait they can make witty lines. If they want a shock death in the next movie kill River, it will make the movie a gajillion times better.

Who peed in your Wheaties---sheesh

Yes River is "special" and they focused on her issues for the movies, next time it might be Nishka and be all about Mal and Zoe.

In 1977 "Boy that boy Skywalker in that new fangled Star Wars movie what an ego, bet he is screaming who needs an old guy with powers or a pilot when he has the force and flew stuff on his home planet.... what he want next a trilogy about his life, the movie is so Skywalker centric if they make 6 I bet it will revolve around someone from his family."

 

[Banshee16]

What does anyone bring to the table with river on the team? Oh wait they can make witty lines. If they want a shock death in the next movie kill River, it will make the movie a gajillion times better.

Uh....this was heavily alluded to even in the pilot episode of the show. River was a super-genious, able to pick up anything with ease. Heck, she picked up medicine faster than her brother, who's a gifted trauma surgeon...and you're wondering about how she can fly etc.?

It was her story arc being completed, and that's a story that had lasted through most of the first season, and driven events behind many of the episodes.

It would make sense that she'd be resolved in the movie.

Banshee

 

[Nifft]

That would be a film version of Wonder Woman. No joke.

A pretty young female who uses martial arts and kicks butt? Oh Joss, you have so many different kinds of story to tell!

-- N, actually a Joss fan

 

[Rel]

That would be a film version of Wonder Woman. No joke.

Hot amazon chick who fights crime with light bondage? Don't twist my arm.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

Who peed in your Wheaties---sheesh

Yes River is "special" and they focused on her issues for the movies, next time it might be Nishka and be all about Mal and Zoe.

In 1977 "Boy that boy Skywalker in that new fangled Star Wars movie what an ego, bet he is screaming who needs an old guy with powers or a pilot when he has the force and flew stuff on his home planet.... what he want next a trilogy about his life, the movie is so Skywalker centric if they make 6 I bet it will revolve around someone from his family."

A crappy character peed in my wheaties. Sorry I didn't love the movie like you did. But then agian they probably could of just rolled the credits had one dance/fight scene with river and ended it and you owuld of rated it a 10.

And in 1977 that boy skywlaker was a good pilot but crapy fighter, and lousy in the force. By then end he was good but hardly awe inspriiing in any of these. He never made every other character useless dead weight like river does. But hey super omega buffy in space is fun.