Superheroes of The Trust OOC Thread (Accepting Alts)

[DM_Matt]

I would like edited resubmits in ASAP so I can choose a final character before the van leaves.

 

[Elric]

Shayuri- I don't think Angel's True Sight works like that. If you've used Transform on your clothes or some such, the change is Continuous duration- it's not an illusion, it's real. Also, he can't see through a mask- it's not X-Ray vision.

It doesn't seem like you're using illusion power in general to disguise your features whenever you're in costume- certainly, you intend to use other powers from that array so it would be a little strange to drop it mid-combat.

 

[Shayuri]

It seems to me that I can define her "quick change" feat as being an illusionary effect if I want. It's not using the Transform power nor the Glamour power. It's just a minor magical trick she's learned.

It always changes "back" to her real clothes though, because (this is how I see it) the costume isn't real. If I had the next level up of Quick Change, then it could be transformation, because she could change anything she wore into anything else.

 

[DM_Matt]

It seems to me that I can define her "quick change" feat as being an illusionary effect if I want. It's not using the Transform power nor the Glamour power. It's just a minor magical trick she's learned.

It always changes "back" to her real clothes though, because (this is how I see it) the costume isn't real. If I had the next level up of Quick Change, then it could be transformation, because she could change anything she wore into anything else.

Not sure if that is TECHNICALLY allowed by RAW, but I'm fine with it.

 

[Elric]

It seems to me that I can define her "quick change" feat as being an illusionary effect if I want. It's not using the Transform power nor the Glamour power. It's just a minor magical trick she's learned.

Oh, that makes total sense. I was thinking about whether that was a descriptor for Quick Change but never went to look to see whether your character had the feat!

 

[Jemal]

I'm Writing the background now, just posted a basic description for now. I wanted to post the #'s so people could check them and make sure I didn't do any of the math wrong.
[sblock=Optic Stats]
OPTIC, aka James Carson.
PL 11

Abilities: 48 pts
STR 18 (+4)
DEX 18 (+4)
CON 18 (+4)
INT 18 (+4)
WIS 18 (+4)
CHA 18 (+4)

Combat : Defense + 8; Attack +4/+8 Eye Laser/+8Martial Arts; Initiative: +8

Saves: Toughness + 14; Fort + 8; Reflex + 8; Will + 8

Skills: Bluff(+12/8), Diplomacy(+12/8), Disguise(+14/0), Gather Information(+14/10), Notice(+16/12), Sense motive(+14/10)
*Situational: +4 bluff/Diplomacy (Attractive); Diplomacy Check for favours(Connected), Gather Info in 1 minute(Contacts), Gather Info auto-check first time meeting new group/individual(Well Informed); All skills considered Trained (Jack of All Trades)

Feats: Ambitexterity, Assessment, Attractive, BenefitX2 (Status&Wealth - High Paid Politician), Connected, Contacts, Dodge FocusX4, Eidetic Memory, Evasion, Jack of All Trades, LuckX2(total 3 luck points), Uncanny DodgeX2(Sight, Sound), Well Informed.

Powers:
Blast 14 (31 pts) - Eye lasers, Accurate x 2, Alternate Power: Heat Vision
Strike 10 (13 pts) - Martial Arts, Mighty, Accurate x 2
Device 3 (Hard to take away, 12 pts) - High-tech Supersuit :
-X- Morph (2 pts) - Any Human.
-X- Morph (1 pts) - *Limited: Suit can turn into other clothing
-X- Protection 10 (10 pts)
-X- Feats(2 pt): Quick Change(Suit stored in belt, expands and covers), Improved Initiative
Device 2 (Disarmable, 6 pts) - Visor:
-X- Super Senses 10 (10 pts) - True Sight.
Super Senses 11 (11 pts) - Radius(Sight), Extended(sight), Darkvision, microscopic vision(DNA), X-ray Vision(not lead)
Speed 1 (1 pt) - 10mph speed.


COST: Abilities 48 + Skills 12(48 ranks) + Feats 19 + Powers 74 + Saves 12 = 165/165
[/sblock]

[sblock=Optic Story]
BRIEF: The 28 year old James Carson is the peak of human perfection.. Strong, fast, healthy, smart, charming. He's a much-loved Politician and Businessman with contacts everywhere. He's also not entirely Human... James Carson is, in his off-time, the mutant super-hero known as Optic.
*More under construction, will be up ASAP.*
[/sblock]

 

[Elric]

I'm Writing the background now, just posted a basic description for now. I wanted to post the #'s so people could check them and make sure I didn't do any of the math wrong.

COST: Abilities 48 + Skills 12(48 ranks) + Feats 19 + Powers 74 + Saves 12 = 165/165

Well, I see one error and it's a big one: you haven't paid for your base attack or base defense! That's 24 points at the moment!

 

[Shayuri]

Probably a good idea to explicitly list your tradeoffs too.

I mean, looking at the numbers, it's probably correct...but it saves time if they're listed.

Oh! And I have a feeling making the costume pay for Morph (any clothing) AND buying two levels of Quick Change is redundant. If the costume can change into other outfits...why bother with Quick Change? I suppose I can see where technically these are different powers (one lets the costume change shape while retaining its benefits, the other lets you change clothes as the costume disappears, and you lose its benefits), but do you really want to pay extra points for such a razor's edge of difference?

And finally...and...this is probably a silly thing, but it's just something I have to say. It seems like there's an oddly large number of people that can Morph into other people in the group. It's a really cheap ability, I know...and useful, and there's no reason NOT to have it. It just struck me is all. Usually the "shapechanger" is a whole separate super... Anyway, it's not a problem, and it's not even a criticism. Since we don't have a dedicated shapeshifter character, it's not stepping on any toes.

One of these days I'll have to make Facade and play a -reeeeal- shapeshifter. They be so much fun.

 

[Elric]

And finally...and...this is probably a silly thing, but it's just something I have to say. It seems like there's an oddly large number of people that can Morph into other people in the group. It's a really cheap ability, I know...and useful, and there's no reason NOT to have it. It just struck me is all. Usually the "shapechanger" is a whole separate super... Anyway, it's not a problem, and it's not even a criticism. Since we don't have a dedicated shapeshifter character, it's not stepping on any toes.

I don't think everyone who has morph is using it correctly or to take multiple forms. Angel's morph is the 1 pp/rank version, which only lets you take one additional form (and I think he has metamorph for a second form). You still have to roll disguise for morph, though- at rank 1 people can tell that you're in disguise and see through it pretty easily (especially if you try to disguise yourself as looking too different from your normal form)!

James- is your character's color shifting just a "normal costume that serves as a disguise" kind of thing? If so, you might want to take Quick Change 1 (and you probably get the bonus colors as a freebie- don't think that's worth the second rank) so that you can do it without any reference to the morph power (kind of like Shayuri's illusion- descriptor quick change).

Jemal, you only have one rank in morph (since humanoids is 2 pp/rank) but your disguise bonus is +14, which would require 2 ranks in morph with your charisma.

Really, morph is not that front-loaded- people just think it's very front-loaded Also, Jemal, Speed 1 is really fast. Wouldn't it make more sense to have Speed 1 in the super-suit and Improved Initiative out of it?

Shayuri- The suit only has one level of quick change. Jemal- It seems to me that morph + Quick Change 1 in the suit is really just Quick Change 2 in the suit (since it pretty much duplicates those abilities). Quick Change 2 instead of the morph power is probably a more compact way of writing it in this case.

OOC: While I'm at it with random comments, Raylis, do you think you could write your character's speech in a slightly brighter color? I'm finding it very hard to read right now (and this will only get worse if your character ever recovers from laryngitis!).

 

[Fenris2]

Angel's morph is the 1 pp/rank version, which only lets you take one additional form (and I think he has metamorph for a second form). You still have to roll disguise for morph, though- at rank 1 people can tell that you're in disguise and see through it pretty easily (especially if you try to disguise yourself as looking too different from your normal form)!

Actually morph plus the metamorph is one actual new form, at least as I read it, no disguise needed. That way angel really does change into a wing-free middle aged oriental man - no disguise to penetrate. Although true seeing stuff would see through it. Still it fits the whole walk among us unkown theme that goes with at least pop lit angels, so there it is.