Well, I guess if you have Ultimate Power Attack, it could be assumed you had all the versions that are prerequisites, but it is also good to list these things incase there is a discrepency, or one of the powers offers a benifit not listed in the stat block. (Ex, if there was a power called uncanny disarm that let you disarm a foe and all foes are disarmed. )Upper_Krust said:Thanks very much Frobojoe mate!
Okay I just wanted to get some feedback on the preview before I screen capture the pages and put them directly on the website.
I have also noticed a few things when constructing the stat blocks.
Firstly I think I am wasting space (and inadvertantly distracting people) by outlining those divine (cosmic or whatever) powers that are merely prerequisites for other powers.
Secondly, I think the competence bonuses attributed to portfolios is much too ambiguous and probably far too powerful. So I am likely going to change it to a single bonus to a pertinent action/ability.
Lastly, I wonder if there is a quicker way of describing one of the Effect abilities (such as Surtur's Uncanny Cosmic Mastery) - they take up a dreadful amount of room.
Also chances are I made some mistakes somewhere - so let me know where. Thanks.
I'd be more scared of whatever blew up the galaxy, myself.High Epic: Surtur is freed by the chance shifting of dimensional tectonics caused by an exploding galaxy. Already the clarion call of Heimdall's horn has sounded and battle is iminent.
Yes, but I could list those that are prereqs and outline those that are not.Ltheb Silverfrond said:Well, I guess if you have Ultimate Power Attack, it could be assumed you had all the versions that are prerequisites, but it is also good to list these things incase there is a discrepency, or one of the powers offers a benifit not listed in the stat block. (Ex, if there was a power called uncanny disarm that let you disarm a foe and all foes are disarmed. )
You could reduce the bonus, or restrict it to portfolio related actions - Ex: The fire portfolio might give Surtur +24, but only when he deals fire damage or such. (This is hard to word without taking up a paragraph)Ltheb Silverfrond said:The competence bonus could be the key factor in deciding who wins in a fight between two evenly matched foes. If one gets his bonus against the other (Such as surtur fighting a foe foolish enough to weild a molten sword) the one gaining the bonus is likely to win.
I may try that, although it probably means explaining the ability after the Combat text.Ltheb Silverfrond said:Yea, the Effect Mastery abilities do take up space. When I threw Ltheb together, I found that a small table worked well. It's less verbose, but probably takes up less space if you use a slightly smaller font.
I like the previous 'table' idea.Ltheb Silverfrond said:Oh! Here's an idea - List the base ammount of HD/Damage Die if applicable, and then say "See Page XXX (Begining of Divine Powers Section where you describe effects) for details" Or list the page the effect appears on if it has a Non-HD based effect. (Like for Gravitic, Thelemic, and Astro-type effects) This takes up less space, but a bit of referencing is needed to run said deity. "What is the damaga on Cosmic Storm? Grr page XXX, Shoulda written it down" Then again, if you didn't plan ahead of time that the PCs were going to fight a God, then perhaps the DM needs to take a bit of a break and make sure he or she knows exactly what that entails. (Ex - "Abraxas can nullify what!?! Permenent Hit Die Loss?!? Geez, the players are doomed!")
Surtur still has the proper attitude to gladiatorial arenas.Phantom Llama said:No major issues jumped out at me, though I haven't made much review of the statblocks themselves.
Is it so terrible of me?Phantom Llama said:I see you are continuing your 'band of freaks' approach to creating adventuring parties.
Phantom Llama said:I'd be more scared of whatever blew up the galaxy, myself.
If anyone can't download it, feel free to email me firstname.lastname@example.org and I will send it to you.Anabstercorian said:Curses! I can't download it for some reason - whenever I try, it says I don't have permission. I'll have to wait until it shows up on the website.
Glad you like it.Rikandur Azebol said:Wow, avesome ! Now I can see Surtur being able to burn the world ... and even recover from avatar form, if some crafty PC's defeat him.
You and me both!WarDragon said:Very nice, and very scary. What intrigued me most was the domains... I can't wait to see all of them in final form, with abilities like those (hint, hint)!
No, I like it. It adds a dash of colour to the proceedings.Upper_Krust said:Is it so terrible of me?
It adds, definitely. If I wanted a simple rehash of mythology I'd go read a mythology book. Mythology is inspiration, not gospel.Does it detract or add to things when I wander of the path beaten by the mythology?
Yes.Upper_Krust said:1. Should anyone be allowed to wield a weapon heavier than themselves?
This is trickier.2. Should all immortals gain the +3 bonus to Charisma, Intelligence and Wisdom from old age?
Anyone capable of easily lifting such a weapon in the first place is presumably used to dealing with the unfortunate consequences of Newtonian mechanics from their own strength. Or you could simply rule that a deity's aura, which is also the source of their Deflection bonus is cabable of exerting a balancing force that keeps gods swinging orichalcum greatswords from being raped by conservation of angular momentum.Upper_Krust said:1. Should anyone be allowed to wield a weapon heavier than themselves?
Slightly tricky one this.
I don't think so. They're immortal, so they don't really age (they do, however, accumulate more power as they age, through worship and suchlike). An ascended mortal would probably keep the age modifiers of his mortal self (although it would probably be possible to Wish to have them reversed if they were inconvenience).2. Should all immortals gain the +3 bonus to Charisma, Intelligence and Wisdom from old age?
Attachments were disabled for a bit yesterday, that may have been the problem?Anabstercorian said:Curses! I can't download it for some reason - whenever I try, it says I don't have permission. I'll have to wait until it shows up on the website.
Very much, even as my DM would earlier get an seizure before allowing me to play him in Ragnarok Scenario.Upper_Krust said:Hi Rikandur matey!
Glad you like it.
Surtur ? The Elder God ? The guy who'll burn 9 worlds of Viking mythology ? Small fry ? Let me guess ... Neutronium Golem would crush him like bug ? Without noticing his existence ...Upper_Krust said:Although remember Surtur is a small fry (no pun intended) in the grand scheme of things.
I was going to add an Aspect of Surtur's Avatar form, but I realised that it would have 15 Hit Dice which is the same as a Fire Giant. If you wanted a non-epic Surtur to battle, I would simply add the Hero-deity Template to a Fire Giant and give it equipment for a 30th-level PC (ECL 30/CR 20).