D&D (2024) Table of Contents for Dungeon Masters Guide Leaked

The new Dungeon Master's Guide has been sold at the MCM Comic Con in London UK this weekend, according to Reddit users Mr_Murdoc and Dusuno, and some material has been shared, including the Table of Contents. The book was officially on sale there, with D&D Beyond saying that "MCM Comic Con London attendees will be the first in the world to have an opportunity to purchase a physical copy of the 2024 Dungeon Master’s Guide!" 900 copies of the DMG were available for purchase at the convention.

 

[mamba]

Just more than half of current players according to that WotC video. No idea where they got that data or how accurate it is.

not sure which video you are referring to, I doubt the majority is staying put with 2014 and not moving to 2024, I’d be even more surprised if WotC would say so now and not in some post mortem ten years from now

 

[Parmandur]

we’ll know more about the fate of 2014 core books in a few months, but so far the PHB is still available on DDB for purchase

If you think about it, WotC really has no motivation to stop selling them, if people will still pay them money. I don't think theybwill stay in print, but keeping the Beyond versions up is an easy way to avoid splitting the fanbase.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I don’t think they do. I think the upper end of new players is still organically growing at a pace that kept the 2014 PHB in the top sales rank at Amazon for nearly ten years.

How do we know that? I own three copies of the 2014 PH. Do you think new players (new as of now, not new before 5.5) are growing fast enough to have that "killer ap" growth you're talking about? Enough to make a "new classic" (and sight unseen at this point to boot)?

 

[Parmandur]

not sure which video you are referring to, I doubt the majority is staying put with 2014 and not moving to 2024, I’d be even more surprised if WotC would say so at this point

I reckon the majority will mix and match, like keep the old PHB but use the new DMG. That would match my experience of starting playing during the 3.5 era, when Kittanning 3.0 and 3.5 together was just normal. And this is way easier to mix and match!

 

[Parmandur]

The killer app of 2024 books is in the on-boarding assist they provide to new folks.

These core will become the new classic.

Really happy with how the new PHB has made it easy for my kids to start in on reading the book, compared to the older one. Partly them getting older, but a big part is that it is simply better presented.

My daughter was so happy to see the cartoon characters, even, lol.

 

[Micah Sweet]

not sure which video you are referring to, I doubt the majority is staying put with 2014 and not moving to 2024, I’d be even more surprised if WotC would say so now and not in some post mortem ten years from now

The one in the OP.

I'm still skeptical all those folks are going to buy their books all over again. $150+ is not an insubstantial amount of scratch.

 

[DinoInDisguise]

See, if it doesn't have stuff in it that's useful for me, I'm not going to buy it. Curiosity isn't worth $50+ to me.

Isn't that the problem with a book designed for no one?

Realistically, what in this book is useful to someone who's DM'd more than two sessions? I think there is a reason that there is a meme about no one reading the DMG. Before it was a book of optional rules and mediocre advice, now it only has the latter.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic. But I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone. Look up "how to DM" on youtube, and save yourself $50, if you are new.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Isn't that the problem with a book designed for no one?

Realistically, what in this book is useful to someone who's DM'd more than two sessions? I think there is a reason that there is a meme about no one reading the DMG. Before it was a book of optional rules and mediocre advice, now it only has the latter.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic. But I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone. Look up "how to DM" on youtube, and save yourself $50, if you are new.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[mamba]

If you think about it, WotC really has no motivation to stop selling them, if people will still pay them money. I don't think theybwill stay in print, but keeping the Beyond versions up is an easy way to avoid splitting the fanbase.

agreed, there isn’t any incentive esp. since they need to keep it around for people who bought it already anyway, whether they still offer it for sale or not. Yet they removed Volo from sale when MotM came out despite the same being true then

 

[Parmandur]

Isn't that the problem with a book designed for no one?

Realistically, what in this book is useful to someone who's DM'd more than two sessions? I think there is a reason that there is a meme about no one reading the DMG. Before it was a book of optional rules and mediocre advice, now it only has the latter.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic. But I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone. Look up "how to DM" on youtube, and save yourself $50, if you are new.

The old DMG had great material: the meme was nobody read the DMG because people were asking questions which the book a sweated, and we as a community had to keep pointing to where the info was. Now the book is organized to actually make it easy to find, so that should be mitigated significantly.