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I generally use them BUT becasue I did not bring that up before this battle... for this one I am not... except for mooks (when they fail their save by like 21 against some of your attacks they are pretty much little pieces)

Next battle yes I will use Massive Damage. Obviously I am using Knockback already. I don't really like Impairment unless running a more realistic campaign and they use a modified version.
 


'2 less due to Armor Penetration'
'two less because of Penetrating Attack'

Karl,

What is Armor Penetration and how is it related to the Penetrating Attack Super-Feat? Have you modified the Penetrating Attack to work differently than what is listed under its description, or did I just miss something when I looked through the MnM book? If you've modified it, out of curiosity, how does the Impervious extra now work? Just trying to understand everything =/
 

Yes, sorry those 'Armor Penatration' should be "Penetration Attack", and the note should read "-X due to protection/armor/FF, two points less due to penatrating"

Sorry about that.... I play WAY to many games and get the different affects I get the descriptions mixed up at times... sorry about that...
 

Hmmm...I still don't get it =/

By the book, the Penetrating Attack doesn't deduct anything from the protective value of the target - it only forces them to make a Damage save if the rank of damage is less than the rank of the target's Protection bonus - or am I misunderstanding =/

You seem to be meaning something else, but I just don't understand what it is =/
 
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Elfy said:
Hmmm...I still don't get it =/

By the book, the Penetrating Attack doesn't deduct anything from the protective value of the target - it only forces them to make a Damage save if the rank of damage is less than the rank of the target's Protection bonus - or am I misunderstanding =/

You seem to be meaning something else, but I just don't understand what it is =/

As far as the errata goes, penetrating attack treats a character with protection as if they had amazing save damage instead, its the same rank.
 

AHHHHHHH what the??

Hmm ok I guess I have still been going off the old rules DAMN ok I am stupid :(
I was still using the old rules (post revised with the errata) man the way it is written now is TOTAL different then it was before... good goly miss molly... teach me not read everything again and just assume that it is some way that it use to be... grrrrr I am not to happy with the way it is written as is...

OK again sorry all my faught :(
 


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