Terrorism arrests on my doorstep (almost)

[The Thayan Menace]

Defamation of Character is Not Cool

It was incredibly bad form for you to derail a thread made by someone who is understandably concerned for the safety of himself and his family.

It was never my intention to "derail" this thread, and to imply that I have something personal against S'mon and his family is just plain low.

 

[Numion]

I do hope that the people weren't arrested on skin color only. But I find it reasonable if the police arrested them based on hanging with suspected terrorists. They even have a charge for that: belonging to a terrorist organization. Being suspected of this crime could be the arrest basis.

Now the police have them, they question, they investigate some more, and let the lawyers decide what actual charges are brought. Maybe some are actually charged for belonging to a terrorist organization (the basis for arrest), and hopefully some are charged with enabling or perpetrating the London massacre.

Doesn't sound like anyones rights were thoroughly trampled. Worst case scenario: some were innocent, and had to spend some time in jail for vain. Shouldn't act suspiciously, I guess. If the crowd you hang out symphatizes with anti-UK views, maybe you should expect something like this, even if you don't deserve it.

 

[diaglo]

I'm not sure what gun you guys expect me not to jump?

the one the police are holding and putting 5 bullets into a guy who jumped the fare.

 

[S'mon]

the one the police are holding and putting 5 bullets into a guy who jumped the fare.

Stay in Stoned Mountain, Diaglo.

edit: & it was 8 bullets, BTW.

 

[Jonny Nexus]

For what's it worth, good luck. I hope they actually catch the real culprits.

Whoa!

You are correct when you say that being arrested for a crime does not make you guilty. That's why people are using phrases such as "suspected terrorists". You should assume someone is innocent until evidence is presented in a fair court to prove their guilt.

But when you say, "I hope they actually catch the real culprits" (emphasis mine) you seem to be stating an absolute belief that the guys who've been arrested are wholly innocent (i.e. innocent men who've been fraudulantly arrested by the police).

How can you be so certain that the police have got the wrong men?

 

[Dinkeldog]

At least one post has been deleted for being wholly or nearly wholly political in nature. If you're looking for your post and it is gone, that's why.

 

[Berandor]

At least one post has been deleted for being wholly or nearly wholly political in nature. If you're looking for your post and it is gone, that's why.

No problem. Edit: I came back to edit it, myself, so it's all right Sorry again, I should have held my trap.

If you'd now do the same to all political statements here (such as the one I responded to), I'd be even happier.

 

[Numion]

Has someone in your presence said something extremely derogatory about your government, or city, or anything else inflammatory? Did you report him? If not, would you be o.k. with going to jail for letting it stand? If yes, do you think it was necessary?

Nah, I didn't mean it like that. I meant that if you hang with a group of people that are talking about acting against the UK with weapons. Normal banter about the taxes and such doesn't, of course, warrant any action.

ps. you probably shouldn't give even examples of political commentary.

edit: whoops, dinkle was faster.

 

[Berandor]

Nah, I didn't mean it like that. I meant that if you hang with a group of people that are talking about acting against the UK with weapons. Normal banter about the taxes and such doesn't, of course, warrant any action.

ps. you probably shouldn't give even examples of political commentary.

edit: whoops, dinkle was faster.

Yeah, I thought you didn't mean that. And my examples have already been taken care of.

 

[diaglo]

Stay in Stoned Mountain, Diaglo.

edit: & it was 8 bullets, BTW.

hey, i go to the Midlands about every 3 years.

one year i was returning as we were getting ready to land we banked sharply. the pilot comes over the air and tells everyone the IRA is lobbing mortar rounds on the runway.

not something i wanted to do after an 8 hour flight.