theCourier
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Is it a major issue? Seems more like 3-4 people complaining about it in an internet forum.
It's literally the thing you're saying it's harder than. THAC0 is a DC.1) You are the third person to try to explain THAC0 as if it were easy in a third entirely different way and it still doesn't sound as simple as roll plus bonus, compare to DC.
I think this thread is mostly about laughing at those 3-4 people.Is it a major issue? Seems more like 3-4 people complaining about it in an internet forum.
In what way is this a major issue? If literally anyone is concerned by something is it a major issue or is the threshold a dozen people, I have seen more outrage for almost every other tiny aspect of D&D than this, maybe I am missing it....
And, here we are, ten years later, and a teeny, tiny joke, a bit of a send up that's not even really mean spirited, becomes a major issue.
Sorry folks, but, if this joke gets your back up, perhaps a little self assessment might be in order. Why does this joke bother you?
What type of Bozo would think Thaco is a great name for a clown. Homey don't play this stuff. Before I get the Ball rolling to turn the creators into a Red Skeleton, soupy their sales, do a Ceasar on their backs, bean them over their heads and break the Pinkys of their kids, this does not get them any Chuckles, i think their humor is kind of Krusty but I do Carebell about a nice easter egg.WotC has a new NPC in it's latest book, Witchlight.
Thaco the CN retired clown who doesn't want people touching his stuff and hates kids.
Very subtle. Like a brick through a window.
I mean, I LOVED the first season of Stranger Things, but the "mouth breather" thing made me a bit uncomfortable, because I know people who were mercilessly mocked for that exact thing (they had serious sinus problems). Doesn't mean I didn't love the show or that it's a "major issue", just not something I really enjoyed.
Yeah I had a severely deviated septum for most of my life. That was just a poorly considered way for the kids to mock the bullies.
I've never been persecuted for mouth breathing though.
I haven't had to fear being murdered, beaten, or sexually assaulted.
I haven't needed to worry about how I was going to feed and shelter myself, etc.
People complain about people being offended by things and having thin skin when those jokes and remarks are literally life threatening.
And then turn around and say they are being oppressed because a clown in a story references an old game.
The privilege on display is just remarkable.
I can't imagine being upset about this, but also can't imagine finding it funny.
I mean at the end of the day its a joke about ageism (lol those old gamers and their gatekeeping in D&D), which I suppose is on the low end of "groups not to make fun of".
While I think the griping about this is overblown....shall we not do the misery poker thing? Just skip past it?
Well....there it is. /memeJust a thought, but they might be poking fun at the RPGPundit, one of the consultants they removed from the 5e Players Handbook. He checks off just about every box, including always having a pipe in hand.![]()
Why do I get the feeling this was a setup?….well played!
It was probably already mentioned, but they almost did exactly that. And it’s trivial to flip ACs. 20 - DAC = AAC. Same with THAC0 and BAB. 20 - THAC0 = BAB. Done. Put that in your conversion notes and you’re set.I don't think it was inherently impossible to make the jump from attack matrices straight to BAB. I do think it would have been impossible to make that jump in 2E, however, because 2E was trying to stay more-or-less backwards compatible. Going to BAB means flipping the direction of armor class, which in turn means all monster and NPC statblocks using the old system are invalidated.
You know, its quite offensive to be offended on behalf of all those people in a category you do not belong to who are not offended.Yeah, this isn't great. I never played 2e or used Thaco, I'm not a grognard and I love seeing the game evolve, so I don't feel personally attacked by this, but calling someone a "clown" has become more and more insulting in the recent years, which I'm sure the people at Wotc are aware of.
To target a whole subsect of the hobby (that perhaps isn't currently paying its dues to Wotc), calling them clowns for their gaming preferences and assigning negative stereotypes to them, feels petty.
I'd be similarly unimpressed if they created "Max Min the jester", a pedantic retired lawyer with an encyclopedic knowledge of laws of the universe, that somehow can't tie his own shoes because, in his own words, he "didn't spend enough points on that".
Well, except the frothers who support the bladder chasers!Bullies make fun of your "stupid interest" no matter what that interest happens to be.
Always remember, you can never get more stupid than a bunch of grown men chasing a pigs bladder round a muddy field.