The Adventures of the Knights of Spellforge Keep

[MTR]

Stealing from the dwarf

If you're going to rob the guy at least admit you're doing it because you want the cash instead of making up lame excuses why he deserves to be robbed.

"He took them from the dragon so they weren't really his." Is the stuff you took from the dragon not really yours? If the party had taken the gems at first and he stole them during the night would the party think that was cool and there was no problem with it?

"He wasn't a captive" He's surrounded by ogres, half dragons and a lich under a mountain where his only way out is by swimming several hundred feet through an airless tunnel - so he could reach miles of barren tundra. High level adventures forget how the rest of the world lives. There was no need for a cell or guard - how's he going to leave? What could he do to hurt his captors?

If the party had said something at the time the dwarf was taking the gems I'd have less of a problem with it. If they had talked to him instead of stealing them while he was asleep I'd have less of a problem with it. If they hadn't put on such a "wanna make something of it?" attitude when he complained I'd have less of a problem with it.

Even not abandoning him to die in the wilderness - which would have been evil no matter how you paint it - was an afterthought by one party member. Did they at least tell him which way was civilization?

The dwarf had a better claim as "back wages" than any of the party's rationalizations. The more I think about this the worse it seems. If my party did this I'd tell them their alignment was drifting. Doesn't mean they can't do it - but alignment drift and a bad reputation has a way of catching up with you....

 

[Breakstone]

bad reputation has a way of catching up with you....

Yes, I get the feeling that the dwarf will be back...

and this time, it's personal...

 

[Lela]

Where IS Lela?

My internet went down and I spent the time studying for a test on argument.

To me its like a underage kid picking up a six pack in a liquor store but crying when he gets to the counter and finds out he isn't leaving the store with it. You didn't really think you were going to get away with that did you?

False Analagy.

As you can imagine, I did well on the test.

IS she ok?

No, actually, I'm not. But I hope to pull out of it by tomarrow.

 

[Caliber]

I don't think it was very nice of the Knights to steal the Dwarve's gems, but I wasn't there and neither were none of you.

Only Ziona is entitled to tsk all of them.

And of couse Doc Midnight gets to wreck horrible vengence for their slip.

I was hoping to ask what that armor Shade had that Vek has now? The strange armor they stripped from the Mind Flayer?

 

[Grog]

Yes, I get the feeling that the dwarf will be back...

and this time, it's personal...

Maybe that can be Shade's new character - a pissed off dwarf out to get his gems back

 

[Lela]

Maybe that can be Shade's new character - a pissed off dwarf out to get his gems back

Ziona, a new man for you!

Sure he's a bit stubby, greedy, cowardly, vengful, and, well, evil. But maybe you can change him.

 

[DWARF]

A COWARDLY DWARF?!!!!

He deserved FAR worse than what the Knights gave him. No Dwarf worth his clan would allow his cowardice to cow him to work for a wyrm.

Our law would demand his execution. If it weren't for the Knights need for battle readiness, I would expect them to shackle the wretched creature and turn him in to the clans, so they can deal with him properly.

 

[Lela]

A COWARDLY DWARF?!!!!

He deserved FAR worse than what the Knights gave him. No Dwarf worth his clan would allow his cowardice to cow him to work for a wyrm.

New character concept taking shape. . .

 

[Celtavian]

Re

Did I say "wafer-thin" justification?

By that metaphor, more accurately, he's like an adult looting a liquor store you're about to burn down.

Some kind of... illegal liquor store... that it'd be right and just to burn down, that is.

LOL. I found this analogy very amusing.


I don't mind so much that they took the coin, but I do think the method was rather unbefitting the Knights. As has already been mentioned, had they taken the gems initially giving only small recompense, if any, to the dwarf for all his years of imprisonment, then it would be understandable.

The way they actually retrieved the gems was underhanded. If the dwarf talks to others about what they did, it will not look good for them.

Imagine if someone was going around saying "They let me travel with them, but robbed me as I slept and sent me on my way with a smidgeon of my wealth." No one is going to care about the whole story.

This dwarf is obviously a master craftsmen to have been chosen to build those golems, so he will probably find work for some noble or powerful dwarf merchant clan when and if he returns home.

I hope even Wee Jas can see this is not one of Vek's better moments. Personally, I like Vek and I really cannot picture him doing this. I would have thought Vek would take the gems and give them back to the dwarf telling Edge that this is not how the Knights operate. Then maybe take them after telling the dwarf that he was not thoroughly convinced he deserved to carry this much wealth away. Though hindsight is 20/20, I defintely don't picture Vek being underhanded in a petty way like this.

Oh well, what's done is done. I can't wait to see what happens in White Hell.

 

[Sammael99]

Great stuff Doc (and supporting cast)

And here I was wondering why nobody was commenting on my new Fading Suns SH. They were all here debating ! That's why !

Incidentally this brings home one of the odd effects of Story Hours : to see your character's actions discussed and judged by the masses !

I thought it was a great narrative moment, that thing with the dwarf. And a great springboard for future annoyment (at the very least )