The big announcement: 4dventure

[Vocenoctum]

I wouldn't say there is NO information, with the screencaps, the confirmation from joe browning, etc. Its just not confirmed OFFICIAL from the WOTC team.

Sorry, I didn't mean "no confirmation" I meant "no information". We've got nothing really to go on, other than there will BE a 4e. We don't even know WHEN...

And yes, "nothing" is hyperbole, but still.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

*sigh*

Well, if it's official, then that's the worst news I've heard in a long time.

Well, at least I'll be able to finish collecting 3.5 books, but now I'm going to end up a grognard bitterly refusing to play newfangled

I find myself not only disinterested in 4e, but outright hostile to the concept. The more I think of it, the less I think we need a new core edition, and the more I see myself finding my "retro" niche as a 3.5 guy.

When 3e was announced, I was cautiously optimistic since I knew 2e was way behind the times. When 3.5 was announced, I knew 3e was good but had stuff that needed fixing. Now, things work but I have the deep suspicion that this is nothing but a cash grab.

A new edition of D&D is coming out. . .just as Dragon and Dungon magazines die and their names are plundered for some pay-access website. A new edition is announced at Gen Con just a few months after WotC said it would never be announced at Gen Con and would only be announced at Winter Fantasy.

WotC is going to have to utterly knock my socks off with this 4e for me to even do so much as buy a PHB.

You and me both, buddy.

This has got me really pissed off. I want to rant, scream, and vent. Not so much about the edition change ... that was eventual ... but because we've been lied to about it. You lying WOTC bastards ... 'we're not working on it, it's several years off' my hairy dwarven arse! Just tell me this: why? Why do we need a 4E now? And frankly, if you give me any other answer than "It's all about money; sales were beginning to slump so we needed to kick out another edition to refresh our sales of core books and reprint everything from the beginning again to boost our profits" I'm going to call you all liars, turn my back, and never give you another dime.

Where's Morrus to confirm/deny this stuff? And I want the ex-WOTC'ers to give there assessment of the why now (OK, why a year from now, but why now) decision.

I need an appropriate smilie to convey my anger.

 

[catsclaw227]

Where's Morrus to confirm/deny this stuff? And I want the ex-WOTC'ers to give there assessment of the why now (OK, why a year from now, but why now) decision.

I am pretty sure that there is no denial coming, and confirmation is not necessary.

Though I WOULD like to get some kind of rough outline of what 4e will look like, and how easy it will be for us to port our vast 3.x library of stuff over. I could care less about splat books.... I want to easily and quickly port my adventures.

 

[Irda Ranger]

"I sense... a great disturbance in the 4ce, as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced…"

Wow. A literal "lol." Thank you.

Man. Just remembering how i found Eric's site less than a week after the GenCon where they announced 3e.

So this is what it feels like to be a grognard. I just wrote (and deleted) a whole paragraphs of complaints and grumbles - and 4e's not even announced yet! It's a sickness.

 

[EricNoah]

So this is what it feels like to be a grognard.

Yep, there's gonna be a whole bunch of us in this very uncomfortable position.

At least I hope it's a whole bunch of us!

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Well, I'm expecting Morrus has the meat of the details, is what I meant. Though he's probably been sworn to secrecy.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

It's worth mentioning that one of the topics in the forum is OGL/D20, so I would guess that some form of the license is going to carry over into 4e.

That seems to be a ray of hope.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Apparently I'm not a grognard, because I'm pretty excited about 4E. Then again, I'm not nearly so invested in 3E as a lot of people. Sometimes bitterness is helpful!

 

[Ishmayl]

Yep, there's gonna be a whole bunch of us in this very uncomfortable position.

Like in the back of a Volkswagen?

 

[Irda Ranger]

Though I WOULD like to get some kind of rough outline of what 4e will look like, and how easy it will be for us to port our vast 3.x library of stuff over. I could care less about splat books.... I want to easily and quickly port my adventures.

Yes. There's two ways make it easy to port adventures:

1. Make 4e just "3.5, but better"
2. Make 4e new and different, but drop dead simple to generate "stuff" for.

If 4e falls into the former - well, I hope it doesn't. If they're going to do a new edition, they should do a new frickin' edition. I wouldn't buy a D&D 3.5.9

I hope we can port adventures because of the latter, because that would mean it's also drop dead simple to make new adventures for. And run them off the cuff.