So if I had labeled the thread "The Case for Draconians" instead would the responses be different,do you think? That is, it is specifically the connection between racist tropes and orcs etc... that is the problem? If we cut out that language but still talk about inherently evil biological creatures created by some malevolent cosmic force, is it "okay"?
Draconians are canonically able to have moral choice. Like, there isn't any debate there, there was a whole novel series about "Draconians find out their origin, overthrow their oppressors, and set out on their own"
Maybe we should have kept those latter two.
Vashar had a cool backstory that could have been neat (But was absolutely fumbled) and Jerren were just... Bad. Like, not evil, just bad.
How is it that it's still okay for devils and demons (terms regularly applied to people) to still be evil but not orcs which only have loose association to real world slurs?
Because its not the terms. Its the "One civilisation that puts itself in the position of being 'higher' is using that to crush cultures who aren't at that level of development and justify it by calling the beings being crushed as evil" is something that happened to cultures throughout history.
Demons and Devils are supernatural beings summoned from another realm who don't permanently die, don't really have culture, and exist to do horrible things. Goblins and Orcs are not supernatural. They have children, culture, lives, cities, hopes, dreams. They're people.
I want fun fantasy adventure games, not "Let's reenact real attrocities (its okay we're claiming the people you're doing this against are evil its fine"
If you reallly want an all evil race, make them the Borg or Terminators or something
