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The coolest, classic D&D BBEG!

The BEST classic D&D BBEG!

  • Acererak the Devourer, Tomb of Horrors

    Votes: 24 11.5%
  • Asmodeus, King of the Nine Hells

    Votes: 10 4.8%
  • Azalin, Dark Lord of Darkon, Ravenloft

    Votes: 4 1.9%
  • Bane, The Black Hand of the Forgotten Realms

    Votes: 5 2.4%
  • Cyric, The Dark Sun of the Forgotten Realms

    Votes: 7 3.4%
  • Demogorgon, Prince of Demons

    Votes: 9 4.3%
  • Dispater, Lord of the Second Hell

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Errtu, Balor Demon foe of Drizzt DoUrden

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Graz'zt, Demon Prince of the Triple Realm

    Votes: 6 2.9%
  • Lolth, Demon Queen of Spiders

    Votes: 22 10.6%
  • Orcus, Demon Prince of Undeath

    Votes: 22 10.6%
  • Raistlin, Master of Past and Present in Dragonlance

    Votes: 18 8.7%
  • Strahd, Dark Lord of Barovia, Ravenloft

    Votes: 17 8.2%
  • Takhisis/Tiamat, The Dragon Queen

    Votes: 7 3.4%
  • Tharizdun, The Dark God, Greyhawk

    Votes: 25 12.0%
  • Vecna, the Lord of Secrets, Greyhawk

    Votes: 18 8.7%
  • Zuggtymoy, The Demon Lady of Fungus

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Other (indicate who/what below)

    Votes: 11 5.3%

I voted for Ascerak, but Strahd runs a close second in my esteem.

Other significant achievement in villany: Tharizdun, Lord Soth, and Tiamat.
 

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It was a very tough choice but I ended up voting for Tharizdun because it took all the other gods, both good and evil, to imprison him to save the multiverse from entropy (IIRC) and everyone fears his release.

Now that's the power to instill fear!

Impressive... Most Impressive.
 

Asmodeus. Well because...he's Asmodeous! As a DM my players would have a tiny chance against any of these BBEGs. Against The Man himself, they'd need a miracle!
 

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Ah, Bargle. Classic mustachio-twirling arcane villainy. Gotta love him. And his decision during the halfling invasion of his master's realm was priceless... :)

Posted by TiQuinn:
Wow, Steffan. I think you might've nailed it.

Poor little cleric.....never knew what hit her! :(

Posted by rounser:
He kills Aleena...so sad...

Now, now, lads, buck up. It's not as bad as all that. Aleena's doing fine - nothing like cleverly arranging to be born the daughter of an 18th-level cleric... :D

Posted by Steffan:
The man who was once described as "So twisted, he needs a corkscrew to put on his robes in the morning"?

Yes, Terari does have a way with words, doesn't he? He's definitely one of my favorite characters in all of Mystara.

For those interested, here's the stat block for my 3e version of Bargle, converted principally from the last set of his real (i. e., OD&D) stats, as found in the Poor Wizard's Almanac II:

Bargle the Infamous, Ex-Magist of the Black Eagle Barony (Karameikos).

Human Male Rogue 3/Wizard 25; CR 28; Medium-size Humanoid(Human); HD 3d8+25d4; hp 80; Init +7 (Dex, Improved Initiative); Spd 30 ft. (Bracers of Armor+8); AC 23 (Bracers of Armor+8, Staff of Power, Dex); Atk +21/+16 melee (1d4+2 w/crit 17-20/x2; Dagger+3); AL CE; Sv Fort+12, Ref+17, Will+16 (all saves include +2 bonus for Staff of Power); Str 9, Dex 17, Con 10, Int 25, Wis 9, Cha 15. Height 6'1"; Weight c. 140 lb. Skills and Feats: Alchemy+27, Appraise+12, Bluff+12, Climb+4, Concentrate+31, Diplomacy+16, Escape Artist+8, Hide+8, Jump+4, Knowledge(Arcana)+38, Knowledge(History)+22, Knowledge(Local/Karameikos)+17, Knowledge(Nature)+22, Knowledge(Nobility and Royalty)+17, Knowledge(the Planes)+27, Listen+7, Move Silently+8, Profession(Siege Engineer)+14, Scry+22, Search+4, Sense Motive+4, Spellcraft+38, Spot+4, Tumble+8; Dirty Fighting, Empower Spell, Extend Spell, Greater Spell Focus(Enchantment), Heighten Spell, Improved Critical(Dagger), Improved Initiative, Improved Spell Capacity x 3, Multispell, Quicken Spell, Run, Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus(Enchantment), Weapon Finesse(Dagger), Weapon Focus(Dagger). SA: Sneak Attack +2d6, Spells. SQ: Evasion (if makes Reflex save for 1/2 damage, takes no damage), Uncanny Dodge (keeps Dex bonus to AC when flat-footed or vs. invisible attackers). Posessions: Dagger+3, Bracers of Armor+8, Staff of Power (50 charges), Horn of Blasting, plus unknown others. Spells Prepared(4/6/6/6/5/5/5/5/4/4/1/1/1): 0 - Detect Magic (2), Mage Hand, Read Magic; 1 - Charm Person (2), Magic Missile, Shield, Silent Image, Sleep; 2 - Invisibility (3), Levitate, Mirror Image, See Invisibility; 3 - Dispel Magic (2), Fireball (2), Hold Person, Extended Protection from Arrows; 4 - Charm Monster (2), Ice Storm, Wall of Fire, Wall of Ice; 5 - Cloudkill, Lesser Planar Binding, Passwall, Teleport, Wall of Stone; 6 - Antimagic Field, Disintegrate (3), Planar Binding; 7 - Finger of Death (2), Power Word Stun, Teleport Without Error (2); 8 - Horrid Wilting, Incendiary Cloud (2), Mind Blank; 9 - Dominate Monster, Power Word Kill, Time Stop (2); 10 - Quickened Disintegrate; 11 - Quickened double Empowered Fireball; 12 - Quickened Horrid Wilting. Spellbook: All Wizard spells in Player's Handbook, plus unknown others. Languages: Common(Thyatian), Traladaran, Goblin, Orc, Kobold, Abyssal.


anowack has a point, though, when he reminds us that the Master of the Desert Nomads has produced a lot more epic-scale ruin and destruction in Mystara. By that standard, the Immortal Rad should be high on the list, for his rebellion in the halls of Pandius, and its consequent war of the Wrath of the Immortals. He wasn't malicious, and there are those who would argue about how evil he truly was, but he was tragically proud and stubborn, and willing to make any sacrifice in the pursuit of knowledge - his followers burned all clerics they could catch for many years to prevent reliance on the "crutch" of divine magic and to enforce elevation of reason over revelation, and he pursued his researches even at the risk of destroying all magic and magical races on his world.

As-yet-unmentioned Mystaran candidates and possibilities include Barimoor, half the Princes of Glantri, Telemon and Tandaleyo of the Shadowelves, Thar the Orc-King, "Emperor" Zandor of Alphatia, the "Black King" and "Black Queen" of the cult of Alphaks, Wulf von Klagendorf and his Heldannic Knights, and the Immortals Alphaks, Atzanteotl, Loki, Ranivorous, and Thanatos.

Turning to my other favorite world, Birthright (can I really be the first in this thread to mention it?) - well, a lot of the awnshegh are just plain wicked cool. The Gorgon is the obvious power player here, but is just a little too Sauron-esque in his role for my tastes. The Serpent, the Magian, and the Raven are the other major awnshegh regents, Ruobhe Manslayer takes the attitude of elven superiority to chilling extremes, and the Diabolyk seemed like the coolest of the non-regents.

So there are a few more names to kick around. This is a fun discussion - it'll be interesting to see where it leads... :)
 
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MeepoTheMighty said:

Bane, on the other hand, is the Real Ultimate Evil. Not only will he enslave your kids, subvert your government, and dominate your free will, he'll look damn good while he does it. That man's got STYLE.

Yeah. Bane can kill anyone he wants!!!! Bane cuts off heads all the time and doesn't even think twice about it.

Also, Bane is a mammal.



Hong "loves Bane with all of his body (including his pee pee)" Ooi
 


Some of you guys have really gone old school, so old school that I don't even know who you're talking about!

And Nightfall, this Blackguard you mention... Who is he?
 

hong said:
Yeah. Bane can kill anyone he wants!!!! Bane cuts off heads all the time and doesn't even think twice about it.

Also, Bane is a mammal.

Hong "loves Bane with all of his body (including his pee pee)" Ooi

Once more, Hong, you disturb me. With style.
 

I'm just going with Vecna for personal reasons. He put the boot to my @$$ multiple times in Vecna Lives a few years back.

My favorite character, was never the same.
 
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BTW, my vote for least cool (and oldest) classic BBEG goes to....
Asperdies (sp?).
As only the truly decrepit among us are likely to remember, he is lich that appears in the middle of old module D1 with no background and for no reason.
 

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