Trailer The Death of Robin Hood

[Reynard]

Well worth your time: Episode #49 – Was There a Real Robin Hood? (Part I) – Our Fake History

 

[billd91]

Robin Hood (1991, Patrick Bergin): A good effort but almost entirely joyless and pointless.

Joyless? With Friar Tuck gleefully confronting Folcanet with "Welcome to Hell"?!? I think not.

 

[jian]

Joyless? With Friar Tuck gleefully confronting Folcanet with "Welcome to Hell"?!? I think not.

Maybe I should rewatch it, but I was quite unentertained when I saw it. Sorry.

 

[Cadence]

My other half - like much of England and apparently almost all US presidents - is descended from King John (whom the Disney film dubbed "The Phony King of England").



I'm a huge fan of the Disney movie (see my avatar), and it was a bit horrifying how much worse my wife's 23G Grandfather was than the animated lion led me to believe (for example the fate of Maud de Braose and her son).

Was King John really that bad? Yes!

Most kings were capable of behaving badly from time to time. Yet, says historian Marc Morris, when it came to lechery, treachery and shocking acts of cruelty, the king who sealed Magna Carta more than 800 years ago was in a league of his own...

www.historyextra.com

Of course he and the other Plantagenets were supposedly descended from the Melusine (which I guess might explain a lot about the US and UK)...

The Angevin Kings… descended from the devil or not? — Plantagenet Discoveries

Melusine, daughter of Satan and Demon Countess of Anjou was supposedly the ancestor of Fulk of Anjou. There are lots of myths & legends surrounding the Middle Ages, but the Plantagenets, or the Angevins in particular are the subject of this one, which I find most fascinating

www.plantagenetdiscoveries.com

In any case, it feels like there is a lot to build on if one wants to make it all grittier!

 

[TolkienThePiss]

Big points to Robin of Sherwood (1984) for portraying King Richard (played by John Rhys Davies) as a total bastard.

 

[Morrus]

I'm a huge fan of the Disney movie (see my avatar), and it was a bit horrifying how much worse my wife's 23G Grandfather was than the animated lion led me to believe (for example the fate of Maud de Braose and her son).

I've never seen the Disney cartoon, but I watched that clip. I didn't realise it was so Jungle Book!

 

[jian]

I've never seen the Disney cartoon, but I watched that clip. I didn't realise it was so Jungle Book!

Yup, it's classic golden age Disney with the Milt Kahl head swaggle in full evidence. And of course (as noted above) the voice of Phil "Baloo" Harris as Little John.

Harris also voiced Thomas O'Malley in The Aristocats, another Disney cartoon classic from the year before, and there are quite a few overlaps with Robin Hood from the voice cast: Monica Evans (Marian), Carole Shelley (Lady Cluck), Paul Buttram (the Sheriff), and George Lindsey (Trigger, one of the vulture guards) among others. And Peter Ustinov (King John) and Terry-Thomas (Sir Hiss) are pretty great too.

 

[Cadence]

I've never seen the Disney cartoon, but I watched that clip. I didn't realise it was so Jungle Book!

It feels like it's rare to find Phil Harris (Little John and Baloo) playing something where he isn't pretty close to his persona on the Jack Benny Show or Phil Harris & Alice Faye radio shows (well, there is much less alcohol in his Disney roles I guess).

 

[Morrus]

Yup, it's classic golden age Disney with the Milt Kahl head swaggle in full evidence. And of course (as noted above) the voice of Phil "Baloo" Harris as Little John.

Harris also voiced Thomas O'Malley in The Aristocats, another Disney cartoon classic from the year before, and there are quite a few overlaps with Robin Hood from the voice cast: Monica Evans (Marian), Carole Shelley (Lady Cluck), Paul Buttram (the Sheriff), and George Lindsey (Trigger, one of the vulture guards) among others. And Peter Ustinov (King John) and Terry-Thomas (Sir Hiss) are pretty great too.

My familiarity with Disney cartoons is... limited. I had no idea this one was a musical like Jungle Book (probably the only other cartoon of that type I've seen).

 

[jian]

Big points to Robin of Sherwood (1984) for portraying King Richard (played by John Rhys Davies) as a total bastard.

Yes, that was just chef's kiss for characterisation. Richard was no slouch when it came to being a terrible king.