The DM did IMPURE things to my PC!

[Rimple Serf]

all who want to complain and bitch about the way 'DEAD' was treated, mabey you just like a simple hack and slash!!! Keep playing your simple games and leave the best Dms' to do their jobs. .

After only three posts and being introduced to the wide world of D&D, I must appoligise for my comment to all. Sometimes even an ego as big as mine must be slamed down.
Sorry
As for the 'best' ha I retract the statement and swallow it with a pint of dragon acid.
I am humbled.
Thank the gods that there are sites like this to put us (or mabey just me) in our places.
I look forward to more constructive comments.

 

[Rimple Serf]

Since Simple Serf doesn't ever use the rules as written I doubt it really matters. It was a plot device to make sure he got to tell the story he wanted to. Nothing more, nothing less.

Simple Serf indeed, oh well,
I can say that the warhammer rules 2nd edition aren't that great, so I have changed many of the rules to compensate.
I did state that I use the rules as a guide, and keep track of them.
Yes I did use the device to guide the story.
I would never change the D&D rules, the system is far superior.

 

[Crothian]

I would never change the D&D rules, the system is far superior.

I wouldn't go that far...most the people round here change them in at least slight ways.

 

[Rimple Serf]

I also DM for them in my game. They are fine. No schemes and backstabbing against other PCs.

Are you sure!!!
And who controlls them when they are on their best behavior
I remember many occasions when a certain PC is continually trying to use other PC's as battering rams as well as smashing them with their 'wacking stick'. as well as the many notes that fly towards the DM. But thats the group, and how we play.
oh thats right the pc's never pick on the others do they.
I think we have a simple minded player amonst us who just likes to make it hard for us all. I think the Half Oger needs another talking to.

 

[Buttercup]

No offense and all, but... you DID take it lying down.
Sure, you're "whining" here, but you took it and are still playing.

Me, I'd already have changed PC's, and there'd be Dwarf Entrails all over the campsite!

These folks are your friends, so you don't want to quit, so you just need to adjust to the way they're playing I'd say, if you still want to play. If you're a quiet person, I recommend Brooding Evil. It's fun!

I agree. This isn't the sort of game I'd play in, nor the sort of DM whose table I'd consider playing at, but Dead has an investment in these people, strange as that may seem to some of us.

Dead, you really need to roll up a new character whose alignment and motivation better fits the party. Since the DM screwed you over so badly, he should be a big boy and allow your new character to start play at the same level as the rest of the players and fully equipped.

However, you might want to think about the "friends" you are spending your time with. Surely you could find people who wouldn't treat you so callously?

 

[Psychic Warrior]

Simple Serf indeed, oh well,

Heh. That was a Freudian slip I believe. My brain plays nasty tricks on me sometimes. I've corrected it in my post.

I can say that the warhammer rules 2nd edition aren't that great, so I have changed many of the rules to compensate.
I did state that I use the rules as a guide, and keep track of them.
Yes I did use the device to guide the story.
I would never change the D&D rules, the system is far superior.

Warhammer 2E? I didn't think that was coming out until May. I really don't think that is how many took that quote though. Never using the rules as written is a lot more forceful than 'I change many rules'. Dealing in absolutes is rarely a way to win friends and influence people effectively.

 

[leporidae]

Dangerous Ground

The group that I have played and GM'd with for many years tends toward non-heroic (anti-heroic?) campaigns like Dead and Rimple's. Lots of PvP action, betrayal, killing, theft. What I have learned is that humiliating a PC is (for nearly all players) far worse than killing them.

My rule of thumb as a GM is to push as many of the player vs player interactions back to them. For example, if I get a note from the bard saying that they're trying to pick the cleric's pocket, I'll tell the cleric what's happening, and tell them to go off and resolve it themselves. If this isn't feasible than you probably shouldn't allow PvP in the campaign. For example, the elf mage would have told Dead that they are slipping him a cursed book cleverly disguised to look like his usual Dwarf manga. Lots of notes pass in my campaign, characters can do sneaky stuff, but as soon as it involves another PC it gets thrown into the game arena.

Also, your character's CN - why wouldn't you have killed the Half-Ogre as soon as you had any confirmation of your suspicion about them poisoning you? Not because you're upset or angry, you might even be personally amused, but because it's what your character would do in that sort of campaign.

 

[dead]

But from what you say, that's the kind of game they want to play, and it seems like you're the target because you're a little... straightlaced? Is that a fair assessment? compaired to your friends that is.

I wouldn't say straightlaced. I'm willing to play a "Chaos" PC anyday. It's just the way my character was turned over to Chaos.

I'm totally willing to insert a new PC that loves Tzentch and keeps secrets from the other players. (I'd never backstab them like they did to me, though.)

 

[dead]

The DM plans to end the campaign completely!!!

The DM has now said he is going to end the campaign completely!!!!!!!!

I said I was happy to create a new character -- a Chaos worshipper -- who fits in with the group but, nope, he's not interested.

Now *I* look like the villain don't I?

 

[dead]

An example of a slightly longer-lasting compulsion: Later in the same campaign, the supposedly CN druid and the LN forester fighter came to blows about foresting in the local woods. The druid tried to kill the fighter, but the fighter took the druid hostage, holding a sword to her throat. The druid swore to murder as many foresters as she could (and the fighter) if she ever escaped, but my character would not stomach the killing of non-evil characters, so I geased the druid never to attack the party or any foresters, either directly or indirectly. The druid got really mad.

I think this is similar and would eventually result in resentment between players. The player and DM alike would have to resolve these conflicts in an open discussion because, if left unchecked, would escalate into serious player vs. player confict. Who knows? Maybe the druid might try to take out your PC in his sleep. (Apparently that happened in our game!!!!)

So it's definitely related.