ChaosEvoker
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Hmm...I was planning on anyone posting whenever they could for the campaign, and we just don't continue until the next person in initiative is posted.
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Nightcloak
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ChaosEvoker said:
Then I'm in. I'll get a character up within a couple of days. I also vote for FR.
Imret said:
Neither have I!!! The more the merrier. At least I wouldn't be the only one trying something new.
Darkness said:
This knowledge snafu shows how long I lurker around here before getting involved
I'm enjoying myself a lot more now that I am posting/involved.
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Evilhalfling
Adventurer
Imret said:
Theres only two characters posted, and this is my first time as well. come jois us
DungeonmasterCal
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Just wanted to check in... I've been reading the posts (here and elsewhere on ENW) but have had little time to post anything aside from little snips and stuff. The overtime should be ending this week and I can start fully participating again.
Nightcloak
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Xen155 said:
First
[SBLOCK]Appoint someone (like a treasure possition) who receives the money, keeps the account, pays the bills. This does not need to be the same person who receives the donation. Most organizations I've been in use the limited VP possition as the donation guy so no one gets over loaded with work. He works the recruitment/collection process then passes the member list to the Pres and the funds to the Tres.
Note: I'm using RL possition titles as a reference. I don't think we would need to do that.[/SBLOCK]
Second
[SBLOCK]The Treasurer would post the donations in some fasion to insure everyone can double check it and make sure their money is accounted for and not missing. If someone is missing then that would give them the chance to contact the council and rectify the shortage and get it posted.[/SBLOCK]
Third
[SBLOCK]If a bill comes due - like the forum cost - then he would inform the man in charge to get a council vote to approve of the payment first.
The treasure would pay bills approved by council vote and keep a ledger and all electronic receipts to report back to the council members. This allows all responsible parties to help oversee the flow of money and insure errors or worse do not happen. (You can never be to careful when it comes to money - trust me on this. People change quickly if they think they are getting shafted. A simple error could create problems.)[/SBLOCK]
Details, details
[SBLOCK]1. Someone would need to track votes of the council
2. Paypal is the best system, IMO. It is secure and generates receipts.
3. Paypal has usage fees. Do you plan on covering those costs for the donation collector and treasurer?
4. What would you do if there is still not enough money to pay needed bills.
5. What would be general policy for extra income that is left after the bills are payed?
6. What incentive, if any, would there be for people to donate. Do donators get a perk?
I have thoughts on these but, hey, this isn't the Nightcloak show (currently banned due to costume failure
) so it should be a group process and vote.[/SBLOCK]Finally, I still think we should stay put here for a while till details are ironed out, interest in the DMF helps support a move, and to take advantge of the high volume of traffic.
Indeed. Input would be welcome.
Whoa. Hold on there. while getting merchenduse is fun it is also a logistical pain. You need logos, artwork (You know you want artwork
), who gets the task of collecting and paying for this stuff, set up costs, and finally who gets to store this stuff until needed. Merchendise is fun but can be a hassle. Lets get up and running before we start making things complex. However, a coffee cup with a dragon or balor on it would rock...
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Re the PbP campaign.
My fear is that it is that it's being made more complicated than it need be.
First off, I don't really understand the rationale for changing forums? If the gameplay is based off of a standard initiative and everyone posts a single post on their turn as they can (as has been suggested and which sounds reasonable to me), the thread shouldn't grow any faster than a normal thread (in case some were worried about size). A sticky could be placed at the beginning directing lurker and would-be players to this thread in order to keep some semblance of order. Everyone should stay strictly in character to avoid any unnecessary posts while discussion, etc. can again come back to this thread.
Also, the only thing that I can imagine to be gained from changing forums would be privacy. Is that what everyone wants? I thought the point was to make it open? It has been said already that if you jump forum you will hedge out newcomers. I agree. Besides, does 5ish players justify a $40/year investment which only a handful of others will even see? That's a personal choice, but it's not attractive to me.
Lastly, this is untested. What if everyone loses interest in two weeks because it's simply too chaotic or too time-consuming or too something? Then you would have a nice big empty forum for a year... and $40. As it should follow initiative order in some way demands that posting slow down as everyone waits for everyone else. Depending on the size of the party and the initial confusion of rules and format, a single round will likely take several days -- at least in the beginning: the point being that it's not likely to be a high traffic thread for a while which comes back to the justification for any forum jump.
My recommendation is to simply make it as an original thread here. At least to see if it works and everyone stays interested. If there's enough interest, it could be moved at some point, but I would argue against that as unnecessary and needlessly shunning the rest of the community. Keep it simple, keep it fun.
That's just my 2... er... probably 3 cents.
"It's the adventure, stupid."
My fear is that it is that it's being made more complicated than it need be.
First off, I don't really understand the rationale for changing forums? If the gameplay is based off of a standard initiative and everyone posts a single post on their turn as they can (as has been suggested and which sounds reasonable to me), the thread shouldn't grow any faster than a normal thread (in case some were worried about size). A sticky could be placed at the beginning directing lurker and would-be players to this thread in order to keep some semblance of order. Everyone should stay strictly in character to avoid any unnecessary posts while discussion, etc. can again come back to this thread.
Also, the only thing that I can imagine to be gained from changing forums would be privacy. Is that what everyone wants? I thought the point was to make it open? It has been said already that if you jump forum you will hedge out newcomers. I agree. Besides, does 5ish players justify a $40/year investment which only a handful of others will even see? That's a personal choice, but it's not attractive to me.
Lastly, this is untested. What if everyone loses interest in two weeks because it's simply too chaotic or too time-consuming or too something? Then you would have a nice big empty forum for a year... and $40. As it should follow initiative order in some way demands that posting slow down as everyone waits for everyone else. Depending on the size of the party and the initial confusion of rules and format, a single round will likely take several days -- at least in the beginning: the point being that it's not likely to be a high traffic thread for a while which comes back to the justification for any forum jump.
My recommendation is to simply make it as an original thread here. At least to see if it works and everyone stays interested. If there's enough interest, it could be moved at some point, but I would argue against that as unnecessary and needlessly shunning the rest of the community. Keep it simple, keep it fun.
That's just my 2... er... probably 3 cents.
"It's the adventure, stupid."
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Evilhalfling
Adventurer
deClench said:
I like the second forum for the game because it can stay focused while this thread continues proving advice and discussion.
The campign in a new forum has already started, in the playing the game forum. There is no charge as far as I know. The discussion of a private forum is a differernt issue, and I would agree with your reservations about it. It would be easier to navigate, as different topics could have differerent threads, but it would prolly isolate the DMF. The PbP should be isolated, because most people wont want to have to wade through round by round combat to get advice on gaming. As a member of the campiagn I will follow both treads, but would still perfer them seperate.
Nightcloak
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I think we have some wires crossed...
The PbP will remain were it's at ( at least as far as I can tell )
What the folks here want to do is move this forum/thread to an independent location.
But I do have to agree with both of you, I do think it's a better idea to keep it here in general.
But hey, they asked so I thought I should throw out the ideas for what their looking at. It would be a lot and they need to go into it with both eyes wide open to the reality involved. My example above was just a deminstration of the financials involved. There are plenty of other can o' worms to open up as well.
All though I still think a coffee mug with a dragon or balor on it would rock 
The PbP will remain were it's at ( at least as far as I can tell )
What the folks here want to do is move this forum/thread to an independent location.
But I do have to agree with both of you, I do think it's a better idea to keep it here in general.
But hey, they asked so I thought I should throw out the ideas for what their looking at. It would be a lot and they need to go into it with both eyes wide open to the reality involved. My example above was just a deminstration of the financials involved. There are plenty of other can o' worms to open up as well.
All though I still think a coffee mug with a dragon or balor on it would rock
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