The Dungeons and Dragons II: Wraith of the Dragon God spoiler filled thread.

[sniffles]

I agree with the pros. This could have been SO much worse -- like Red Sonja or D&D 1. As it was, it's a credit to the game, and the most accurate presentation of it on film.

As for the cons:
"kinda wimpy" -- Yeah, this is not Forgotten Realms. I figure these folks were about 8th level. That's heroic status IMC. I figure Oberon might be 10th-12th, but he's busy.
"no remove curse, but regenerate" -- I don't know what kind of magic was turning the wizard into an undead anyhow. I think Remove Curse might not do it. Is was thinking they tried Dispel Magic and Remove Curse, needed to move on up to Break Enchantment, Mordy Disjunction, something like that. Or maybe they had a Ring or Scroll of Regeneration?

Anyhow, I think D&D 2 might be a 1st Edition game, with the Greyhawk references. That would explain the difficulty for a human wanting to learn divine magic and arcane.

I like that last suggestion - it was 1E!!

Now, let's just imagine a movie made with only the D&D rules in mind, and not real life or good movie scripting.

During combat the characters would just stand in one place and take turns hitting each other. Every character would have a little symbol tattooed on his forehead to indicate alignment. People would get wounded in combat and not react, then suddenly drop dead without warning.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

"Kill him yourself!"​

That was a lich?

It looks like a reject from Star Trek that should've stayed on the cutting room floor!

 

[JoshWilhoyte]

Did they Raise the Cleric at the end? Or did the rogue and Wizard die? That part at the end where the Rogue and Wizard were tending to the garden, the guy who walked up had the semi-shaved head and the tattoo of the Cleric. In fact, that whole end sequence confused me. The fighter changed clothes in it twice, and I was unsure who lived and died at that point. What happened to the four Mages who were on the tower with Melora when she used the Orb of Obadhai or whatever? When she starts to use it, they're gathered around her, but when she's done, she's all alone. Where'd they go? Also, what a wussy lightning bolt.

 

[frankthedm]

Cleric went down like a ton of bricks; they totally violated rule number 2. Also, I liked the simple DnD commercials, though if you're watching the movie you probably already play. Isn't that like preaching to the choir?

At least it was reaching a target audience, Unlike the comercials to conceal herpes. HELLO? Most veiwers of this movie have not even had the CHANCE to get an STD...J.K.

In chicagoland the BurgerKing "BK Joe" commercial ran a LOT. I was especially ammused by there being Normal, decaff & "Turbo" varieties of coffee. Just the trick to fataly constrict the nearly clogged arteries thier enormous omlet gave thier customers. Having the caffined cranked up Burger-King try to push someone off a buildng was hilarious.

Of couse it left me thinking "Where's the mountain dew...commercial?"

 

[Broccli_Head]

i thought the movie was a fun watch with all the d&d refs. the plot moved like an adventure trilogy...WotDG1)The Goblins of Kurtal 2) The Tomb of Malek 3) Return of the Dragon

really, my only beef was that the BBEG gave into the "Ill kill you if you dont remove the curse" too easily.

 

[Katcracker]

Not sure if D&D1 or D&D2 is better.....

For me this was mindless entertainment. I thad some ups, but more downs, and a lot of questions if you knew the game or not. I'm not sure that this movie did anything to draw people into D&D, but I did like the commercials! They were simple and if a person was intregued enough the watch the movie through the second commercial break then they may even go and get the book. I just don't think it a) had enough for gamers or b) had enough for non-gamers.

It was the worst movie, but it definetly wasn't the best. A lot of my dislike though could have been cured if they made it a miniseries and actually explained all that other stuff.... as has been mentioned for instance the new sword suddenly appearing.

 

[sniffles]

What happened to the four Mages who were on the tower with Melora when she used the Orb of Obadhai or whatever? When she starts to use it, they're gathered around her, but when she's done, she's all alone. Where'd they go?

Oh yes, that was another one I left off my list!! What the heck did happen to the other mages? I expect their departure (or death) got left on the cutting room floor. Though possibly they added that last scene with Melora at a later date and couldn't get the other four actors back for a reshoot.

I don't mind that they didn't stick to the rules; it's a movie, after all, not a game. Everyone doesn't stick to the rules during games either.

 

[Ao the Overkitty]

When Nin pulled the gem of true seeing out of the skull, was I the only one who was thinking that it was the Lich's phylactery and he was going to need to smash it later in the movie?

I let most things go, though I did comment out loud that black dragons don't breath fire. Saw the figurine of wonderous power and recognized it as such. It works for the familiar joke, though.

I did also comment, "What's the point of having a barbarian if you won't let her rage?"

Anyone else catch the halflings (or gnomes) in one of the short riding scenes?

 

[Knightfall]

According to the "Making of D&D 2" event at this pastGencon, they filmed a scene were he finds the vorpal sword in the crypt, but they removed it in editing.

Hmm, I wonder if that scene will be on the DVD.

Plus, everyone needs to know/remember that SciFi Channel cut 15 MINUTES from Wrath of the Dragon God for its TV premiere. Plus, they showed the film cropped in the 16:9 aspect ratio. The film was shot in the 2:10 ratio. (Source: IMDb.)

KF72

 

[griff_goodbeard]

Each DVD also includes a new low- level adventure brought to you by DUNGEON magazine, which weaves carefully into the film's plot.

Just got my new Dragon mag and I lifted the above from the New Release section. Another reason to pick up the DVD.