The fate of one 4e PHB

[Fifth Element]

They probably looked carefully:
"What are the favourite choices of a gamer like Die_Kluge. Let's take away everything he likes."

LOL. Everyone takes it so personally. As it happens my current game would be incredibly easy to convert to 4E, so WotC must like me.

 

[Shadeydm]

LOL. Everyone takes it so personally. As it happens my current game would be incredibly easy to convert to 4E, so WotC must like me.

Yes almost as personally as some folks seem to take anyone expressing any opinion of 4E that isn't fawning admiration...

 

[JRRNeiklot]

Yes, and you said "heal an entire village with one Turning". My point being that you are blowing the situation way out of proportions, and being nasty for some reason.

Regardless, I'm not going into details about mechanics, as this isn't the venue for it.
Discussing "giving something a chance", whether it's 4e or Pathfinder is, and it is my opinion that taking a mechanic and blowing it's capability way out of proportion is a ridiculous reason to dismiss a gaming system out of hand.


What I'm trying to say, there are plenty of reasons you not want to play Pathfinder or 4e. Picking an incorrect reason would be rather silly.

Now if you want to say that you dislike the change of Clerics having more healing capability overall, that's a valid opinion, and actually true to the rules. Without needing to be nasty about it.

I was not being nasty about it. You can shove a lot of people into a 30 foot radius. It makes healing spells useless and changes the way the entire world works. Not to mention making a one level dip into cleric VERY attractive. Anyone with a halfway decent charisma will want a level. A 16 charisma and the extra turning feat for 6d6 healing to the entire party once a day? Sign me up. It's way overpowered and may has well have been a healing surge.

 

[JRRNeiklot]

The problem I have with Pathfinder is that it looks like they tried to 4e-ify 3e. If your aim is to support people who love 3e and hate 4e, I think you'd be better off supporting 3e rather than making & supporting a version of 3e that's been houseruled into an almost different game.

Exactly. If I wanted to play 4e, I'd play 4e not some bastardized version of 3e and 4e.

 

[Kichwas]

3e's too number heavy for my taste these days. Try playing a druid who specialises in . . .

4E. Try playing a druid.

Oh... wait...

 

[Shining Dragon]

My initial impression was "egads! big lists for classes! L5R illustrations!". I was kind of overwhelmed (and still are) with the character classes and their ginormous lists of powers.

But its kinda growing on me. I'm now thinking about picking up the MM and DMG over the next couple of months.

 

[Cam Banks]

Cam, I thought that MWP wasn't allowed to continue selling the books past the end of January or something?

We're able to sell our product all the way through June, so now's a great time to order 'em.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[Agamon]

4E. Try playing a druid.

Oh... wait...

Try playing a Warlord in 3e.

And then next year at this time, let's ask these questions again...

 

[Spatula]

Try playing a Warlord in 3e.

Easy, it's in the Miniatures Handbook under "Marshall" (although it is admittedly not as cool).

 

[Family]

Fey Pact Warlock.