D&D 4E The Great d20 Books that shaped 4E

[Quartz]

I'm content to wait and see. I'll be greatly surprised if we don't see developments of concepts from lots of books behind 4E.

 

[TwinBahamut]

I would say that all of the popular and succesful classes from the post-3.5 splatbooks, like Scout, Marshall, Duskblade, Warlock, Healer (I think?), and others are going to have a huge influence on 4E. It seems that the new core classes take as much from those classes as they do the 3E core classes. They also were a great testbed for new mechanics and ideas.

 

[Olaf the Stout]

6) Races of... books - particularly the racial substitution levels.

I think you will find that the racial substitution levels concept first appeared in Monte Cook's AU/AE.

Of course, some people may say that 1E's Elf (or insert other race here) class was the first take on it!

Olaf the Stout

 

[BarkingDeathSquirrel]

I think you will find that the racial substitution levels concept first appeared in Monte Cook's AU/AE.

Of course, some people may say that 1E's Elf (or insert other race here) class was the first take on it!

Olaf the Stout

The Racial Levels in AU/AE are basically mini classes those races can multiclass into... the racial substitution levels are levels you can take <i>instead</i> of the normal level benefits for a given class, basically alternate class features for a given race. A bit different in practice, but similar goals, really.

 

[Turjan]

The Racial Levels in AU/AE are basically mini classes those races can multiclass into... the racial substitution levels are levels you can take <i>instead</i> of the normal level benefits for a given class, basically alternate class features for a given race. A bit different in practice, but similar goals, really.

Most racial levels in AE will nevertheless raise your caster level, so it's not that different. The so-called "replacement levels" that you can exchange for normal class levels were introduced in "Transcendence" for AE. Written by Mike Mearls .

 

[WhatGravitas]

Most racial levels in AE will nevertheless raise your caster level, so it's not that different. The so-called "replacement levels" that you can exchange for normal class levels were introduced in "Transcendence" for AE. Written by Mike Mearls .

And don't forget, that AU/AE racial levels started the process to integrate race more tightly into a character. It was a new idea, was incorporated into UA (hence it had quite an impact on WotC-staff), and Monte continued to work on them in McWoD indirectly (it's like race to the max, because you only have you racial levels), while WotC staff worked on them in 4E, meaning both sides knew that racial levels were neat, but were giving up too much, if you took up racial levels.

Cheers, LT.

 

[Prodigal_Sun]

Don't forget dungeonscape, great book, great preview!

 

[Baby Samurai]

Don't forget dungeonscape, great book, great preview!

Factotum?

 

[Tharkun]

I'd say the content written by Mike Mearls.

 

[Man in the Funny Hat]

Rogets Thesaurus and Websters Collegiate. Don't let anyone try to tell you they aren't OGL.