The Immortals Handbook

[Zoatebix]

If you search for "immortalshandbook" on google, it will link straight to your site, but that's hardly as useful as two words...

 

[historian]

Hey U_K.

Hey historian matey, thanks for the support

Don't mention it dude, twas but a trifle.

I'm glad to see that CRG and others are familiar with the workings of search engines.

 

[historian]

Hey U_K.

Hope all is well.

As you know, I've been dabbling around with 1st ed. stuff (thanks btw for the MOP recommendation). Incidentally, I've got a homebrew version of Arishem the Judge that I'm (shamelessly) proud of (AL:LN, 916/1832 hp, AC: -35 -- "he"'s a real beast).

One of the things that I've noticed, and I'd like for you to weigh in on is that (and this is an issue that persists in 3.5 ed.) certain beings (for instance, vampires) may have abilities or immunities (mind influencing effects) that, when applied against a deity (such as the Illithid God Brain or a Greater Deity of Psionics) seem to create a game imbalance. Perhaps a less extreme example would be a lesser fire elemental which would resist any attempts at a Greater God's ability to burn it with mundane fire (even if the Deity was of the Elemental Plane of Fire).

I don't know if these are the best of examples but I'm hoping that I get the idea across. Is there a way to adjudicate conflicts like these or, maybe an adjudication isn't necessary. I was contemplating maybe something along the lines of a percentile dispel check based on HD, but you probably have better ideas.

Any guidance that you could provide (and please don't if it would infringe upon the sanctity of info that you intend to reveal later) would be very helpful.

Thanks.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Thanks for the help and advice CRGreathouse and Zoatebix!

Hey U_K.

Hiya mate!

Hope all is well.

The usual.

As you know, I've been dabbling around with 1st ed. stuff (thanks btw for the MOP recommendation).

My pleasure.

Incidentally, I've got a homebrew version of Arishem the Judge that I'm (shamelessly) proud of (AL:LN, 916/1832 hp, AC: -35 -- "he"'s a real beast).

Sounds good.

One of the things that I've noticed, and I'd like for you to weigh in on is that (and this is an issue that persists in 3.5 ed.) certain beings (for instance, vampires) may have abilities or immunities (mind influencing effects) that, when applied against a deity (such as the Illithid God Brain or a Greater Deity of Psionics) seem to create a game imbalance. Perhaps a less extreme example would be a lesser fire elemental which would resist any attempts at a Greater God's ability to burn it with mundane fire (even if the Deity was of the Elemental Plane of Fire).

I don't know if these are the best of examples but I'm hoping that I get the idea across. Is there a way to adjudicate conflicts like these or, maybe an adjudication isn't necessary. I was contemplating maybe something along the lines of a percentile dispel check based on HD, but you probably have better ideas.

Any guidance that you could provide (and please don't if it would infringe upon the sanctity of info that you intend to reveal later) would be very helpful.

Thanks.

I think the simplest method is simply that deities will trump non-deities (based on CR) on all matters within their portfolios.

Those beings with complete immunity might be permitted either a +20 save or take half damage (or rather the deities in question could affect such opponents but wouldn't gain their portfolio bonuses in doing so).

eg. A deity with the fire portfolio could burn a fire elemental, but it wouldn't deal double damage as one of the normal portfolio benefits.

 

[historian]

Hey Krust.

I think the simplest method is simply that deities will trump non-deities (based on CR) on all matters within their portfolios.

Those beings with complete immunity might be permitted either a +20 save or take half damage (or rather the deities in question could affect such opponents but wouldn't gain their portfolio bonuses in doing so).

eg. A deity with the fire portfolio could burn a fire elemental, but it wouldn't deal double damage as one of the normal portfolio benefits.

That works for me, and is a bit simpler than what I was using.

Thanks.

 

[Baronovan]

Bump

Hey U_K, how are ya?

I hope the work is coming along well. Do you think there's a chance I can purchase the Bestiary as a Christmas gift for myself this year? Well, good luck with your endeavor. I'll be lurking around.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey U_K, how are ya?

Hi there Baronovan dude, I am keeping well.

I hope the work is coming along well.

Slowly but surely...although that could easily be my signature at the moment.

It actually looks (and reads) great (I think anyway), I just need to knuckle down and finish the rest of it, then double check my details.

Once again I made things more difficult for myself by adding new spells and items into the mix. Not to mention the majority of the entries seemed to stretch to more than one page (which added about 30 pages). Then I went and added extra material on all the planar and dimensional hierarchies (about an extra 15 pages). So 69 entries mysteriously turned into 150 pages and I am using the small font and leading from the core rulebooks!

I just need a kick up the bottom to stop me adding stuff.

Do you think there's a chance I can purchase the Bestiary as a Christmas gift for myself this year?

I really, really hope so. I'll be absolutely gutted if I don't have it finished before xmas.

Well, good luck with your endeavor. I'll be lurking around.

Thanks mate. I appreciate all the support.

I know these are trying times, and my delays are not endearing anyone to the work (or me), but I think you will find the effort has been worth it when you see the final material.

I didn't let people down with the CR/EL material and I won't with this either. Promise.

 

[Zoatebix]

Just fyi, Google still isn't doing a great job pointing to your site, at least as of last night (I think... time gets compressed and stretched during finals). Searching "immortalshandbook" as one word still works best, but your site is still 4th or so.

 

[Fieari]

Yeesh Krust... project creep? I have no doubt that the final project will be superb, but when do we get that Bird in Hand? You know, the one worth two in the Bush...

Quite frankly, I'd be happy to pay for an unfinished product, on the condition that I get the finished product as well when it comes out. Any chance of doing a pre-release release?

 

[CRGreathouse]

Just fyi, Google still isn't doing a great job pointing to your site, at least as of last night (I think... time gets compressed and stretched during finals). Searching "immortalshandbook" as one word still works best, but your site is still 4th or so.

When U_K releases the Beastiary, I imagine we'll drop a line to Morrus and see if we can get on the news page. This will help Google find the site pretty quickly...!