The Immortals Handbook

[Matrix Sorcica]

It'll be finished when its finished. Knew I should never have said March - what the **** was I thinking.

Definately April though.

...DOH!

2005?

 

[Cheiromancer]

Upper Krust!

The system of relating Challenge Ratings and Encounter Levels that you describe in Appendix 2- is there a name for it?

I mean besides "Upper Krust's system of relating Challenge Ratings and Encounter Levels, as described in Appendix 2 of the Immortal's Handbook." While accurate, that's a little unwieldy.

I'm going to call it the "Immortal's CR System" in another post, but I'll go and edit it if you let me know what you prefer to call it.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey guys!

Apologies for the continued delays. I feel somewhat foolish. I am trying to make sure everythings perfect and I guess in doing so I am procrastinating over minutiae.

I'll try and get everything sorted ASAP. Promise.

Upper Krust!

The system of relating Challenge Ratings and Encounter Levels that you describe in Appendix 2- is there a name for it?

I mean besides "Upper Krust's system of relating Challenge Ratings and Encounter Levels, as described in Appendix 2 of the Immortal's Handbook." While accurate, that's a little unwieldy.

I'm going to call it the "Immortal's CR System" in another post, but I'll go and edit it if you let me know what you prefer to call it.

Well I always liked the 'Challenging Challenge Ratings' and 'Encountering Encounter Levels' Article titles. But I guess you can call them whatever you wish mate.

 

[Cheiromancer]

Upper Krust,

You are always so gracious in your posts... even with a certain Egyptian Death God whose name I will not invoke! It will be a great relief, no doubt, for you to finally have the Immortal's Handbook off to print.

Now, it turns out that I just referred to your system as "Upper Krust's system", which is even easier than the "Immortal's CR System." It was in the context of a fixed xp value for encounters of a given EL. I would be flattered if you checked it out.

(I'm most proud of this post which awards XP based on CR, and forgets about EL altogether. It also handles treasure awards!)

The link to the thread is here.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Upper Krust,

Hiya mate!

You are always so gracious in your posts... even with a certain Egyptian Death God whose name I will not invoke!

Hes a good guy whose just a touch over-exuberant at times.

It will be a great relief, no doubt, for you to finally have the Immortal's Handbook off to print.

It will indeed. I feel really embarassed to not have it finished and out there already.

Now, it turns out that I just referred to your system as "Upper Krust's system", which is even easier than the "Immortal's CR System."

Thats fine mate.

It was in the context of a fixed xp value for encounters of a given EL. I would be flattered if you checked it out.

I will (I have already glanced over it - very interesting). I will reply there later tonight; I have been limiting (for the most part) my online activities to the evenings.

(I'm most proud of this post which awards XP based on CR, and forgets about EL altogether. It also handles treasure awards!)

The link to the thread is here.

Yes it does seem a very simple way of doing it!

 

[BSF]

Hey guys!

Apologies for the continued delays. I feel somewhat foolish. I am trying to make sure everythings perfect and I guess in doing so I am procrastinating over minutiae.

I'll try and get everything sorted ASAP. Promise.

Don't fret over it too much Upper_Krust. Though, I kind of expect to begin running some Epic scale adventures for a single player here soon. The PC wants to become a deity, so I am eagerly awaiting your stuff.

 

[Paragon]

I know it’s not much consolation but if there is any perceived impatience I’m sure it is merely from gamers wanting to get their grubby little hands on what I’m convinced will be a game-world alter book.
At least that’s the excuse I’m going with
I know it will be great, and I'm looking forward to it.

word

 

[S'mon]

Epic/Immortals thoughts - reposted from General.

I didn't buy the Handbook due to negative publicity, but do have the SRD.

What I'd really like is Epic/Deity-level rules that really simplified play at this level, rather than making it ever-more-complex. AFAIK the old Immortals set for BXCMI D&D did this by mechanics that made regular spellcasting largely redundant.

Things I'd like to see:

1. A greatly simplified Feats system for (N)PC creation - Skills can be kept simple by having NPCs maxed out in their preferred skills, but Feats are a real pain, and dominate Epic 'builds'.

2. Simplified spells system; maybe Epic spontaneous spellcasters could use a Power Points 'energy battery' system, rather than slots? The current Epic system seems to rather nerf spellcasters, so it might be ok if this let them be a bit more powerful. Particularly suitable for divine beings IMO.

3. Discouraging one-upmanship battle-of-spells conflict resolution. Spell Resistance should probably be standard for beings at this level; they should be largely resistant to beings of a similar power-level, ie ca SR 20+Character Level. Maybe they have to actively maintain a 'Spell Shield', and drop it to cast spells (or Spell-like abilities) themselves - I think Immortals set used this? That would solve a lot of problems in the way D&D favours offense over defense so hugely.

4. Reduced reliance on items, other than one or two signature items, & on temporary buff spells. At this level I tend to feel all available enhancements should be 'built in' to the characters; relying on scads of +10 items just isn't Epic to me. Eg if the (N)PC has Natural Armour, let it be permanently Enhanced so they don't need to keep buffing with Barkskin spells & such before every fight. Let stat Enhancements be permanent so there's no need for Bull's Strength or Belts of Giant Strength (unless really Epic ones), etc.

5. Guidelines/Tables for typical NPCs at 21st-40th level like those in 3.0 DMG would be good, too (if Epic handbook doesn't have this, it should).

 

[CRGreathouse]

(1) would sadden me. I love the epic feat system as it works now (though I've modified some feats).

For (5), the ELH does have such tables.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Heya mate!

Don't fret over it too much Upper_Krust.

I'll try not to.

Though, I kind of expect to begin running some Epic scale adventures for a single player here soon. The PC wants to become a deity, so I am eagerly awaiting your stuff.

I appreciate the support...and the subtle kick in the pants.