The Immortals Handbook

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Fieari mate!

If you can understand your supreme being, how supreme is he/she/it, anyway?

I think the literal translation works best here. Just make the Supreme Being the most powerful being.

I suppose that each aspect of God, technically isolated from the others in whatever way (Jesus on earth, being crusified, as the Father turns His back?) could possibly be called a Time Lord? Is that how it goes?

You're getting warmer in a roundabout way.

Argh, and yet you said "Half-a-Point" in terms of the Holy Spirit, ignoring the other two... so likely something else is going on here...

Well you get half a point for 'spirit', the concept I have found is loosely tied in to the 'holy spirit' without actually being the holy spirit - hows that for cryptic.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hiya mate!

Is it 1/2 a point for the Holy Spirit aspect and 1/2 point for the Jesus/Son aspect, with the Father aspect being the Supreme Being?

No its half a point for putting the 'spirit' in holy spirit and thats it.

The Supreme Being is not a Time Lord so you get no points for proffering possible Supreme Being candidates.

 

[Kavon]

Hi Kavon mate!

Hey U_K

Well I wouldn't quite put it like that.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how to call it

Well there would be more ways of tackling Jesus than there would Asmodeus, but thats not something I'm going to expound upon in the IH obviously.

Yeah, I figured as much. That's why I didn't bother to put his name in.

Personally I would be more interested in doing something with Adam Qadmon (who is almost certainly the inspiration for Adam Warlock in the Marvel Universe), a sort of Eternal Messiah (in the vein of Moorcocks Eternal Champion).

Is that the Adam from the Adam and Eve thing?

There is more to my own view of this entity than that - which is why I only awarded a half-point for the suggestion.

Hmm... Is it the.. the.. what's would it be called.. the collection of all spirits? We are Borg of spirits (resistance is futile)? Erm.. Damn, can't think right now

The exact nature of the Supreme Being is up to individual DMs to address or ignore.

Yeah, I was just checking if I had the whole trinity thing right, since I never really knew which was which.

As I mentioned above I think Adam Qadmon is a much more approachable messiah figure and it lets you avoid offending anyone.

Yeah, you're right.
Ok, change subject since it's not the Holy Spirit :3

 

[Iceflame55]

Nice to know I'm not alone for advocating Drastic Actions!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*raises hand*

As a side note, I had previously informed my players that the campaign they are in will extend "Well into Epic Levels", which is kinda true, although I do intend to make them dieties, which is a little bit above epic. At any rate, just today I saw them flipping through the epic level handbook, planning out where they want to go, and I told them not to bother, I'm probably not going to be using it, but rather the Immortals Handbook.

They are now added to the list of people EAGERLY awaiting the books. True, they're only level 5 now, but these buggers want to think AHEAD. They're bucking at the gate man!

One reason I'm impatiently waiting for IH is I'm a perfectionist. I've got the Epic Handbook and Deities and Demigods mind, but neither one has lived up to expectations. Speaking of IH; Upper Krust, any tenative Ideas on the release sceduale? I know you're putting the Monster section out first, but any news at this point might help me maintain a GRAM of sanity at any rate

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Soon, my fellow gamers! Patience is a virtue. It should be out before the year is over.

 

[devilish]

Soon, my fellow gamers! Patience is a virtue. It should be out before the year is over.

Is that just the IH Monster book or do you mean the Apotheosis manual
too (pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease!!)

-D

 

[BSF]

According to www.immortalshandbook.com:

Release Dates* :

Immortals Handbook Apotheosis pdf: Autumn 2004

Immortals Handbook Grimoire pdf: Autumn 2004

Immortals Handbook Bestiary pdf: Autumn 2004

Immortals Handbook Chronicle pdf: Autumn 2004

Immortals Handbook print version: Winter 2004

Immortals Index - Celtic Mythology pdf: Winter 2004

*tentative until confirmed

Though we are rapidly approaching the end of Autumn and there really isn't a whole lot of winter in 2004. I am guessing that those dates are no longer accurate.

 

[Revenge of the Bjorn]

Okay a few random guesses for this guessing game here:
Azrael?
Adam Qadmon? (Worth a shot )
some sort of Demiurge?
Sophia?
Or in relation to the last two does it relate to Gnosticism in any way?

 

[Zuoken]

It looks like Upper_Krust has us all stumped here .

I'm not even going to try to guess at that one, the Judeo-Christian faiths are not my specialty.

 

[Alzrius]

This is straying mildly off-topic, but does anyone know of any D&D articles/products, etc. that have stats for Jesus? Edition doesn't matter, neither does it if it's second- or third-party status, but something that isn't off a fansite would be nice.

I ask because, for fun, I wanted to set up a slugfest between Jesus and Satan (from the old "Politics of Hell" article in Dragon) for a friend of mine, just for laughs (really it'd just be me referencing the stats and making jokes, but it's all good).