The Infamous Magic Item Caster Level!!!

kreynolds said:
I'll agree with myself that I'm tickled. :)

Isn't there a saying about a smiling DM?

Does Andy's statement mean a 1st level caster can make any item he wants so long as he can pay the XP? Just get some one to cast the spell or get a scroll. I want to see a CL3 ring of wishes. :D
 

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LokiDR said:
Does Andy's statement mean a 1st level caster can make any item he wants so long as he can pay the XP? Just get some one to cast the spell or get a scroll. I want to see a CL3 ring of wishes. :D

It'd be difficult given that Forge Ring has a 12th level caster prerequisite.
 


LokiDR said:
Isn't there a saying about a smiling DM?

I believe so, but I'm a "nice" DM.
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LokiDR said:

Fine, a wish granting wonderous item at 3rd level.
You'd probably run into the 'If it quacks like a duck...' argument there. If the comparable item is a ring, then the item should cost as much as the ring, and probably require Forge Ring.
 

Arc said:
You'd probably run into the 'If it quacks like a duck...' argument there. If the comparable item is a ring, then the item should cost as much as the ring, and probably require Forge Ring.

Maybe. If it's a single use item that uses a different activation method, I'd allow it. That's different enough in my book.
 

Arc said:

You'd probably run into the 'If it quacks like a duck...' argument there. If the comparable item is a ring, then the item should cost as much as the ring, and probably require Forge Ring.

Ok, ok, I'll use a real item for my stupid joke

SRD, Tome of Clear Thought
Caster Level: 17th; Prerequisites: Craft Wondrous Item, wish or miracle;

1 scroll of wish or miracle and I can have an inherant +5 to a stat at 3rd level. Thanks Andy! :D
 

LokiDR said:
1 scroll of wish or miracle and I can have an inherant +5 to a stat at 3rd level. Thanks Andy! :D

Umm, unless the cost has been drastically revised downward, you need 7 scrolls of wish ormiracle to pull this off, not 1. And by that point, you'd be almost as well off just using the scrolls to raise your abilities.
 
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Storm Raven said:


Umm, unless the cost has been drastically revised downward, you need 7 scrolls of wish ormiracle to pull this off, not 1. And by that point, you'd be almost as well off just using the scrolls to raise your abilities.

No, I can create the item with just one spell, required feat, and the money/XP. No matter what level I am, at least according to Andy.
 

"For each day that passes in the creation process, the creator must expend one spell completion item (such as a scroll) or one charge from a spell trigger item (such as a wand), if either of those objects is used to supply a prerequisite."

Tome of Clear Thought +5, Market Price: 137,500gp.

"Enchanting a miscellaneous magic item takes 1 day for each 1000gp in its price."

It will actually cost you 138 scrolls of wish or miracle to make a +5 Tome.

Have fun.

-Hyp.
 

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