The Nature of Change (or, Understanding Edition Wars)

[Jasperak]

It's only a matter of time. Once a video game that uses healing surges is launched, healing surges will be vidoegamey again!

D&D never had people stand around for 5 minutes and be back up to full health.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

For me, Healing Surges are more Pulp than Video Game. Indiana gets the crap kicked out of him, then gets his second wind and boffs some Nazis (minions of course!).

I can see that...its just not the first image that pops up in my head.

(I don't like the "minions" mechanic either, FWIW.)

In my opinion, 4E owes a more to cinematic pulp action than MMORG action.

Again, I don't play computer RPGs of any kind, so I have no way of making that comparison.

 

[Filcher]

"<+<+<+^+^+RS+RS+START"

I'm a 4E die hard, and I thought this was pretty funny. Made me smile.

Accurate? Naw. But we're all big kids and can take a little good-hearted teasing. Besides, if you ever play with Delver, it gives you the excuse to make him roll 3d6, no drop, no arrange, and live with the results.

When your best stat is a 13 Charisma, 4E starts looking all right.

 

[Filcher]

Again, I don't play computer RPGs of any kind, so I have no way of making that comparison.

Me neither. But if they are as fun as 4E, I should start.

 

[Jasperak]

For me, Healing Surges are more Pulp than Video Game. Indiana gets the crap kicked out of him, then gets his second wind and boffs some Nazis (minions of course!). In my opinion, 4E owes a more to cinematic pulp action than MMORG action.

And here is where I ask are more people going to come to D&D because of Indiana Jones and comic book movies (Batman, Spider-Man, The Watchmen ), or WOW and the like? Where new players come from will color their impressions of healing surges.

 

[Jasperak]

When your best stat is a 13 Charisma, 4E starts looking all right.

In BXCMI I had a Magic-User with an 11 Int and 14 Charisma. I have about 1 1/2 year's worth of adventures to tell you about if you'd like.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Where new players come from will color their impressions of healing surges.

I'm sure it will. In fact, it will color every aspect of their experience with the game and/or penci & paper RPGs in general-have you seen this thread?

http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/248441-sign-things-come.html

 

[thedungeondelver]

You people are going to give me a goddam aneurysm, you know that?*











*=IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT MOST OF YOU DO, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

You people are going to give me a goddam aneurysm, you know that?

I'm not touching you...

Am I bugging you?

 

[Filcher]

(I don't like the "minions" mechanic either, FWIW.).

See, for me it dates back to AD&D's "minion" mechanic found in the Unearthed Arcana, page 22.

To a grognard like myself, minions are old news.