The New Design Philosophy?

[Gentlegamer]

This is the problem with shifts in the use of colloquial English. Nowadays people often say "may" to mean "can, possibly" -- i.e. "There may be a thunderstorm today", with the strong implication that the *other* possibilities are also quite likely. ("I may pass the test" implies I think I might not.)

The correct substitute for "may" here would be the subjunctive "might."

"There might be a thunderstorm today."

 

[Vanye]

The correct substitute for "may" here would be the subjunctive "might."
"There might be a thunderstomr today."

Correct, as far as I know, but colloquially (at least in my experience) the usage of "may" far outweighs it in American Spoken English.

 

[JRRNeiklot]

Is that the extent of your hospitality? If I invited someone over, and he asked for something that I didn't explicitly offer, but wasn't out of line with what I was prepared to, like a soda instead of a beer, I'd be quite happy to provide it to him.

Well, what if I have to go take a leak? While I'm gone do you plunder the fridge, read my email and download porn, feel up my wife and kick my dog just because I didn't SAY you couldn't?

 

[JRRNeiklot]

I just noticed something about the 3.5 Command spell:



Nowhere does it say that these are the only options, or that other options are prohibited. It doesn't say certain commands are disallowed or not applicable. All it does is describe the general effect (give a single command) and then give a few specific instances of that command.

People are interpreting limitations where there are none. Nothing says that other commands can't be used. So they can. They just require that all-famous DM judgement call. Which Command as a spell required in general anyway.

By that logic, I could give the command: "Conquer Europe." The 3.5 version doesn't say it has to be one word. Just because all the examples are doesn't mean any other command has to be. Right?

 

[Maggan]

By that logic, I could give the command: "Conquer Europe." The 3.5 version doesn't say it has to be one word. Just because all the examples are doesn't mean any other command has to be. Right?

Yeah. As long as you or your DM ruled "Conquer Europe" to be a "single command", which I would do, and your target could indeed conquer Europe on the following round, which the spell stipulates.

Which I doubt.

But if the target could indeed conquer Europe in one round ... oh boy, that'd be one big mother of all opponents. Straight out of UK's epic bonanza, of which I read something about there being a monster with CR over 9000.



/M

 

[JRRNeiklot]

But, who says it has to be one round? Just because all the other examples are, doesn't mean anything else you can come up with has to be right? After all, it doesn't expressly say all hypothetical commands have to be one round.

 

[Maggan]

But, who says it has to be one round?

Ehm ... my 3.5 PH, right at the end of the spell description.

"If the subject can’t carry out your command on its next turn, the spell automatically fails."

I don't read that as only pertaining to the last command in the list, but to encompass the entire spell.

/M

 

[JRRNeiklot]

How long is a turn? A round is six seconds. In AD&D a turn was ten minutes. I was being facetious anyway.

 

[shilsen]

How long is a turn? A round is six seconds. In AD&D a turn was ten minutes. I was being facetious anyway.

I think we got that

And a turn is six seconds, at most. It's the point in the round when you take your action(s). Since the round itself lasts only 6 seconds, the turn is 6 seconds or less.

 

[FireLance]

Well, what if I have to go take a leak? While I'm gone do you plunder the fridge, read my email and download porn, feel up my wife and kick my dog just because I didn't SAY you couldn't?

Let me emphasize the key points that seem to have been missed.

If I invited someone over, and he asked for something that I didn't explicitly offer, but wasn't out of line with what I was prepared to, like a soda instead of a beer, I'd be quite happy to provide it to him.

It would be inappropriate for the guest to take it for granted that permission would be given, but a hospitable host would generally agree to reasonable requests.