The Poor Man's Cleric... (Base Class; lower magic campaign)

Brasswatchman

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So I'm currently working on... hrm... let's not call it a low magic campaign setting. Maybe a better term for it would be lower magic - no wizards, sorcerers or clerics, and we use the variant ranger without spells in Complete Warrior - but bards and paladins are allowed, and are kind of the center of the setting.

On the other hand, I also realized that there was room for a priest-type class, but I thought the cleric was too powerful for what I had in mind for this setting. So I took the Adept NPC class in the DMG, and tried to pump it up so that it might be - if not a complete match for a bard or paladin - at least somewhat decent to play.

What do you think? Did I succeed? Could this, concievably, be balanced? What if I took the cure and summon monster spells off the Bard list? Would it work then? And finally - please, God - can someone come up with a better name for the special ability called aura of divine favor or wrath? Bit long on the tongue, that one, but it was the best I've been able to come up with so far.

Anyway, here's what I've got so far. Tell me what you think:

NOTE: 9/6/06 - updated to version two. Got rid of that annoying "aura of divine whatsits" name, and have a new ability called imbue familiar. Changes in bold. Tell me what you think.
NOTE: 9/11/06 - replaced Divine Harbinger with Heal Self, new ability based off of divine wholeness, pg. 32, Complete Divine. Disallowed medium armor. Changes in bold.

PRIEST
HD: d6
Skills: Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Decipher Script (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Heal (Wis), Knowledge (arcana) (Int), Knowledge (nobility and royalty) (Int), Knowledge (religion) (Int), Listen (Wis), Profession (Wis), Sense Motive (Wis), Spellcraft (Int).
Skill Points: 4 + Int
Starting Equipment: 5d4 * 10 gp (125 gp average)
Base Attack Bonus: Average
Good Saves: Fort, Will
Spells: See below for progression.

Spells per Day –
Level: 0 / 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5
1: 3 / 1
2: 4 / 1+1
3: 4 / 2+1
4: 5 / 2+2 / 0
5: 5 / 2+2 / 1
6: 5 / 2+2 / 1+1
7: 6 / 2+2 / 2+1
8: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 0
9: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 1
10: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 1+1
11: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+1
12: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 0
13: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 1
14: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 1+1
15: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+1
16: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 0
17: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 1
18: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 1+1
19: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+1
20: 6 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2 / 2+2

Special:
Level 1: Imbue relic.
Level 5: Aura of divine favor or wrath Divine harbinger Heal self (level)
Level 10: Extra domain, heal self (2 x level)
Level 15: Heal self (3 x level)
Level 20: Heal self (4 x level)

Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Priests are proficient with all simple weapons, with light and medium armor, and with shields (except tower shields).

Deity, Domains, and Domain Spells: The priest’s primary spellcasting ability is Wisdom. A priest must have a Wisdom score equal to or higher than 10 + spell level in order to prepare a spell. He receives bonus spells if he has a high Wisdom score (see pg. 8, PHB). The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a priest’s spell is equal to 10 + the spell level + the priest’s Wisdom modifier.
Priests receive domain spells, just as clerics do. However, unlike clerics, priests eventually receive two domain slots per spell level. The priest may fill their domain slots with the spells from both domains, or fill both domain slots with the spell from only one of his domains, as he chooses.
In addition, a priest gains an extra domain at level 10. See below for details.

Imbue Relic: At 1st level, a priest chooses a certain object to serve as his relic. A relic is a container of holy energy, linked to the spiritual power of the priest’s soul, which serves various purposes to him as he goes about his duties. In game terms, a priest’s relic is his item familiar.

What this object may or may not be is ultimately the decision of the DM. That having been said, the following objects may serve well as a relic: any simple weapon, the favored weapon of the priest’s deity, all light or medium-sized armor, any shield (except tower shields), a pair of gloves, a ring, a pair of boots or shoes, a cloak, a cape, a bracelet, or a necklace. In general, a relic must be either a weapon, armor, or must be capable of being worn on the priest’s body like a standard magic item (see pg. 214, DMG). Once the priest chooses an object as his relic, it immediately becomes a masterwork item, regardless of its appearance, make, material or craftsmanship. If the priest’s relic is a weapon, it gains the benefits of a masterwork weapon; if the priest’s relic is a suit of armor, it gains the benefits of masterwork armor.

At 3rd level, a priest’s relic gains a +1 enhancement bonus. If the relic is a weapon, it becomes a +1 weapon; if it is a suit of armor, it becomes +1 armor. At the DM’s discretion, the relic may adopt a separate power – for example, become a particular wondrous item – equivalent in cost to a +1 weapon.

The various abilities a relic gains as a priest increases in experience are otherwise described on pages 170-174, Unearthed Arcana (or here - or you can just click here ).

Level: Special Ability
1-2: Masterwork
3-4: +1 enhancement bonus (or equivalent).
5-6: Invest skill ranks.
7-8: Sapience; senses; communication.
9-10: Invest spell slots.
11-12: Special Ability
13-14: Scry on relic.
15-16: Special Ability
17-18: Special Ability
21st or higher: One additional special ability per three character levels above 20th.

Spontaneous Casting: As per the cleric ability (pg. 32-33 PHB), except that a priest can convert prepared spells into either cure spells or inflict spells regardless of alignment. A Lawful Good priest can spontaneously convert a prepared 1st-level spell into either an inflict light wounds spell or a cure light wounds as he chooses, just as a Chaotic Evil priest can choose to convert the same spell into either a cure light wounds or an inflict light wounds spell. Priests of any god can heal or harm as necessary.

Heal Self (Su): Beginning at 5th level, a priest has the ability to draw extraordinary amounts of vitality from his devotion to his god. A priest with the heal self ability can heal his own wounds, in addition to any other healing abilities he might have. At 5th level, he can heal up to his priest level in hit points each day; at 10th level, he can heal up to twice his priest level; 15th level, three times his priest level; and at 20th level, four times his priest level. The priest can spread this healing out among several uses. Using the heal self ability counts as a swift action. A priest can only use heal self when wearing light or no armor.

Extra Domain: At 10th level, a priest gains access to a third domain in his diety’s portfolio. The priest may choose which domain he wishes to gain access to.


Priest Spell List
Priests choose their spells from the following list.

0 Level: create water, cure minor wounds, detect magic, ghost sound, guidance, inflict minor wounds, light, mending, purify food and drink, read magic, resistance, touch of fatigue, virtue.

1st Level: bane, bless, bless water, burning hands, cause fear, command, comprehend languages, cure light wounds, detect chaos/evil/good/law, detect undead, divine favor, doom, endure elements, inflict light wounds, magic weapon, obscuring mist, protection from chaos/good/evil/law, remove fear, sanctuary, shillelagh, sleep, summon nature’s ally I.

2nd Level: aid, align weapon, augury, bear’s endurance, bull’s strength, calm emotions, consecrate, cure moderate wounds, darkness, delay poison, desecrate, fire trap, gust of wind, inflict moderate wounds, invisibility, mirror image, owl’s wisdom, resist energy, restoration (lesser), scorching ray, shield other, see invisibility, silence, summon nature’s ally II, zone of truth.

3rd Level: bestow curse, blindness/deafness, call lightning, contagion, continual flame, create food and water, cure serious wounds, daylight, deeper darkness, dispel magic, glyph of warding, inflict serious wounds, invisibility purge, locate object, magic circle against chaos/good/evil/law, magic vestment, plant growth, prayer, neutralize poison, remove blindness/deafness, remove curse, summon nature’s ally III, tongues, water walk.

4th Level: blight, control water, cure critical wounds, dimensional anchor, discern lies, dismissal, divination, divine power, minor creation, polymorph, restoration, rusting grasp, sending, summon nature’s ally IV, wall of fire.

5th Level: atonement, baleful polymorph, break enchantment, call lightning storm, control winds, command (greater), commune, dispel chaos/evil/good/law, geas/quest, heal, flame strike, hallow, major creation, mark of justice, raise dead, scrying, summon nature’s ally V, symbol of pain, symbol of sleep, true seeing, unhallow, wall of force, wall of stone.
 
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Looks good at a glance, if anything, perhaps a bit underpowered.

Tip: if you use the code tags [ c o d e ] [ / c o d e] you can format tables and make it a lot more readable.

i.e.

Code:
Spells per Day –
Level:	0  	1  	2  	3  	4  	5
1: 	3  	1
2: 	3  	1+1
3: 	3 	2+1
4: 	3  	2+2  	0
5: 	3 	2+2  	1
 

Have you considered using the Divine Bard variant from Unearthed Arcana? (And from here: d20 SRD.)

I'd take something based on the Bard, if you're allowing them anyway.

The Cleric spell list is even managable, if you take away the problem spells:
- Divine Power
- Righteous Might
- Lots of stuff from the Sorc/Wiz list in various Domains

For your setting, I'd also remove the following:
- Shatter
- Magic Vestment
- Air Walk
- Giant Vermin
- Spell Immunity
- Insect Plague
- Flame Strike
- Slay Living
- Harm
- Wind Walk

(You are only going up to 6th level spells, so that's that.)


IMHO a Familiar is very much NOT in character for a religious-type. Familiars are for witches, wizards, and other icky things that the good Priest ties to a stake and burns.


Likewise, most of the stuff on your spell list looks more like a Druid than a Priest. Was that your intent?

Cheers, -- N
 

Nifft said:
IMHO a Familiar is very much NOT in character for a religious-type. Familiars are for witches, wizards, and other icky things that the good Priest ties to a stake and burns.

Likewise, most of the stuff on your spell list looks more like a Druid than a Priest. Was that your intent?

Basically. Come to think of it, I've been writing this campaign setting with a very specific period of history in mind - that messy time where the Roman Catholic Church was still being set up and the division between paganism and Christianity was not quite so definite. I guess I wanted this class to have the same kind of "natural" sort of magic the mythology of the time has. A few examples of some very "druid-like" miracles in Catholic hagiography:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Francis_of_Assisi#St._Francis.2C_Nature.2C_and_the_Environment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Roch (see the bit about the dog)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corbinian (rode a bear)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Eustace (vision associated with a stag)

I'll admit that the familiar is stretching it. I kept that from the Adept class, which, as I said in the beginning, this attempt was based on. It's just one way of trying to balance out the lack of turn undead. I'm guessing you don't think it works in concept, though. Hrm. Have to think about that.
 

Thurbane said:
Looks good at a glance, if anything, perhaps a bit underpowered.

Yeah. Again, this is me trying to make the Adept NPC class better. If these guys are the only source of cure spells in the setting, that'd at least make them more useful. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make this class more fun to play, though?

Thanks for the advice about the code tag. Been wondering about that. Both of you, thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it.
 

Nifft said:
IMHO a Familiar is very much NOT in character for a religious-type. Familiars are for witches, wizards, and other icky things that the good Priest ties to a stake and burns.

So I've given it some thought over the last couple of days, Nifft, and you know what? Screw what I said before - you're right. Have added a new ability called imbue relic, based on the item familiar rules in Unearthed Arcana. What do you think? Any better?

Nifft said:
Have you considered using the Divine Bard variant from Unearthed Arcana? (And from here: d20 SRD.)
I'd take something based on the Bard, if you're allowing them anyway.

Whoops. Never did respond to that part, did I? I actually didn't think about the Divine Bard, thank you for reminding me. Upon considering it, though, I'd still prefer to try and come up with a different class. Like you say, I'm allowing Bards... but if I just made the Priest a Bard clone, with some small differences, it would sort of seem repetitive, you know? There wouldn't be any point to play one over the other - it would just come down to a matter of character background.

All the same, I'll consider the Divine Bard a backup action if I can't make this work. Thanks again for your help. Hope you like the revisions.
 



Here's an idea:

I might spread out the levels when the class gets domains. Maybe one at 1st level, the second at 4th level (when he starts to cast 2 domain spells each day) and the third at either 9th or 11th level just so you're spreading out class abilities (since there's already the improvement of the Heal Self ability at 10th level).
 

whydirt said:
Here's an idea:

I might spread out the levels when the class gets domains. Maybe one at 1st level, the second at 4th level (when he starts to cast 2 domain spells each day) and the third at either 9th or 11th level just so you're spreading out class abilities (since there's already the improvement of the Heal Self ability at 10th level).

Hmm. Sure, but wouldn't that weaken the class at 1st level?

Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
 

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