D&D (2024) The Problem with Healing Powercreep

[Chaosmancer]

So luck can be thing that exists, and I think halfling's luck represents it well, as it just works and the player doesn't need to decide anything (technically you could decide to not reroll, I guess, but no one does this.) Lucky feat IIRC (I banned it, though not for meta reasons) is a resource that is spent, and it is pretty hard to imagine that it is the character who decides to use it.

Pretty hard for you to imagine it maybe. But I've read perhaps a dozen or so stories with characters who have luck or probability altering powers, so it is trivial for me to imagine a character who decides to use such a thing.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yeah, because it doesn't have to. You get to decide how your character acts.

Also, the last time they did people got real sad about it and spent fifteen years going to war over the attempt.

And I still respect them for making that stand.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Pretty hard for you to imagine it maybe. But I've read perhaps a dozen or so stories with characters who have luck or probability altering powers, so it is trivial for me to imagine a character who decides to use such a thing.

If they have such an ability explicitly, then yes, that's great. But I would need them to have such an explicit ability in the setting to be comfortable personally.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Pretty hard for you to imagine it maybe. But I've read perhaps a dozen or so stories with characters who have luck or probability altering powers, so it is trivial for me to imagine a character who decides to use such a thing.

Yeah, it indeed could be conscious probability altering. But then it is not just normal luck, is it? Nor is this how the text presents it.

 

[Vaalingrade]

And I still respect them for making that stand.

I do not.

Also, you respect people for going after a company for doing what you told them to.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Do they have to pray to a Goddess of Luck, or otherwise do anything in the setting to invoke said luck? Because the sorcerer has to actually cast a spell.

DO you have to pray to the god of strength or otherwise do anything in the setting to invoke your muscles? Do we need special mechanics to represent clenching a fist to justify being able to use your strength?

Your question makes no sense

 

[Micah Sweet]

I do not.

Also, you respect people for going after a company for doing what you told them to.

The people I respect are WotC, for making a game they wanted to make and being explicit about the playstyle it advocates (something they haven't always done). I don't think folks should be going after 4e.

 

[Micah Sweet]

DO you have to pray to the god of strength or otherwise do anything in the setting to invoke your muscles? Do we need special mechanics to represent clenching a fist to justify being able to use your strength?

Your question makes no sense

I explained it above. Not interested in going around again about it.

 

[Vaalingrade]

The people I respect are WotC, for making a game they wanted to make and being explicit about the playstyle it advocates (something they haven't always done). I don't think folks should be going after 4e.

Ah got it.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Can you give an example of these narrative elements being part of the PC's perspective, other than Deadpool, She-Hulk, Zack Morris, or a similar 4th wall breaker?

Thediem and his Guardians from Dungeon Life
Richter from The Land
Nick Campbell from Super Powereds
Johnny *****-***** (his villain moniker is inappropriate) from The Villain Code
John Sutton from Battlemage Farmer
The Mighty Halo from Grrl Power

Of course the problem is going to be "I've never heard of these, therefore they do not count, tell me something that I already know about" which is why this question is so aggravating to me. You've not read the literature I've read, so you just assume these things cannot be done.