I think we're on the losing end by advocating free speech for artists in RPG context.
You are on the end of not understanding the right of free speech, at least.
I think we're on the losing end by advocating free speech for artists in RPG context.
You are on the end of not understanding the right of free speech, at least.
If you’re offended by art, it probably IS attacking you.Art must be allowed to be free. And sometimes offensive. It just isn't attacking you, no matter how strongly you feel it does. No, really, it isn't.
I can think of a bunch of situations where that is not the case.If you’re offended by art, it probably IS attacking you.
I think any person brave enough to put their work out there for the world to see has got to have a thick skin when it comes to criticisms both legitimate and unfounded. (This is not to imply that any artists should be subject to abuse. There's a difference between being critical and being abusive.) But I don't know of many artists who literally don't care how their creations are received. I think I heard Iggy Pop once say about criticisms of sellouts, "I don't know anybody who gets up on stage in the hopes that nobody listens to them."If artists ought not to care how their creations are received, they also ought not complain about how their creations are received.
Eh, the Avalanche Press cover art certainly offended me, but I'm not sure I was the one who was attacked. Though if we want to get all deep into it, I suppose they attacked my sensibilities.If you’re offended by art, it probably IS attacking you.
If artists ought not to care how their creations are received, they also ought not complain about how their creations are received.
(FWIW, that’s my personal approach. Someone liking or disliking my stuff is on them, not me, and their opinions generally don’t affect my future output.)
If you’re offended by art, it probably IS attacking you.
If artists and publishers really don't care what people think of the art, why isn't it in crayon scribbles by a 5-year-old?
No, not at all. And on the latter point, what even is an "unintentional attack"?
I am not an American, but perhaps "niche market" is not exactly accurate for movies. "Smaller market" may be better since an R-rated movie has excluded children under 13 (and their parents who are looking for a movie to take their children to) from its audience.I would agree, except you make it sound like every non-PG movie is targeting a "niche market", which to me is absurd - in that if it is true, then I cry for America; you guys are losing out on So. Many. Things.
Luckily you have the Internet. I don't mean soulless plastic porn. I believe the drive towards a near-complete separation of love, sex, and nudity from other content (like action, romance, scifi or fantasy) so you can only choose between sexless "mainstream" content on one hand and hardcore pornography on the other is deeply problematic and bad for you. Take Game of Thrones for example. Luckily it was broadcasted before anyone could seriously consider removing it from the air because it contained elements that clearly and unequivocally offended or excluded women. Yes, Game of Thrones did objectify women, but I remain convinced the pros far outweighed the cons of keeping it on the air.
In the meanwhile let me recommend outlets like Netflix where you can view content created without restrictive "American sensibilities" from countries like Japan, the Philippines, or France.![]()
Scrap Princess seems to do pretty well.![]()
Scrap Princess is the New Zealand blogger and artist.I don't get the reference, but I can do a google search.
Scrap Princess is the New Zealand blogger and artist.
Scrapped Princess is a Japanese light novel/manga/anime series.
the world was destroyed by bewbs later that day.I think anything sexual that heterosexual men like is bad and should be banned.
And daily reminder: WoTC themeselves made this canon by turning the Brothel into a Music Hall/Venue, which means all the lovely ladies in there have levels in Bard that they can perform with.And, of course, Bards. Nothing but DM Fiat stopping them from making a form of Exotic Dance their performing art of choice.
And now we get to the "What is art, and what is it for?" portion of our discussion.
This is simplified in this case, as we are talking about art for commercial reproduction and distribution. If you are trying to make money at art, and do not care how it is received, you are not going to be making much money. This is art as communication, and proper communication requires consideration of the audience as much as the speaker.
If artists and publishers really don't care what people think of the art, why isn't it in crayon scribbles by a 5-year-old?
I had a player that played a path of the Berserker Barbarian that wore a lemon yellow mankini, does that count.To make it fair and equal: both Fantasy RPG guys and gals gotta all wear cheesecake armor now. Yes. Yes that also includes. the Half-Orc Barbarian wearing the two-piece string bikini.
Made out of what? I have to draw the line at synthetic polymers.I had a player that played a path of the Berserker Barbarian that wore a lemon yellow mankini, does that count.