Yes, do not get the "Tekken" anime. It really really sucks. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I wasn't directly responding solely to you, but pointing out that Kim Possible is exactly what it was meant to be.
Oh, I assumed you were directing it to me because ...I think, not sure....that I was the only one that mentioned "Kim Possible".
Anyways, I totally agree with your comments about the show. Your comments also on toylines vs. actually show is spot on too. This is one of the things that irratate me about toy companies. Whether their decision is valid or not, it still irratates me.
The only point I'm a little skeptical on is your comment, " ....is exactly what is was meant to be." I'm not totally sure myself what Disney and the creators of the show "meant" for it to be. But I assumed it was suppose to offer a comdey/action show for girls. They saw "Power Puff Girls" as successful over at Cartoon Network and wanted to offer a show to appeal to a similiar audience. That's the vibe I get from Disney. But I could be off base.
Your version tells it differently. You're saying (and correct me if I'm wrong - we seem to be missing each other on this
) that "Kim Possible" was meant to be for boys. Its possible, but I really doubt it. I think it was more like Disney's attempt to match CN's success with "Power Puff Girls" as well as tap into the same audience that enjoyed "Spy Kids". I think its more about that.
Joshua Dyal said:
Why can't you accept that some people simply may not like anime? That's another of my beefs with anime fans in general; many of them refuse to believe that people could not like anime, so they develop this misplaced bitterness against whatever they believe is "holding back" anime from more mainstream popularity. This view is totally wrong IMO.
Personally, I can accept that some people don't like anime. When I was younger I would try to push it on my friends, but I really don't anymore. Not that it matters, I think all my current friends now love anime anyways. Plus, I don't think you're an anime hater anyways Joshua. Like you said, you found some anime that you do like, so in my book, you like anime.
But I agree with your sentiment that no one should try to keep pushing something onto someone else when its clear that they're not going to change their mind about it. Hey, I don't like sea urchin sushi, no one is gonna change my mind about it.
Plus, being pushy is counter productive to the goal of getting someone else to like anime. It just makes the situation worse.
Chun-tzu said:
I'm not trying to convert anyone here. I'm saying there's more to anime than what many people have seen on American television.
That's the only reason why I may jump in on a discussion on anime. Sometimes, I'm afraid that a particular person who's debating on the subject has only been exposed to what they've seen on Toonami or something.
First off, never got Gundam. Or any other giant robot show, actually, but especially Gundam. Bores me to death.
Yeah, if you're not into it, you're not into it. But on a side note: there are different types of Gundam. In the same way that Batman has "elseworlds" versions like "Gotham by Gaslight" , Gundam has the same. Gundam Wing, G-Gundam, Gundam Seed, and such aren't the real Gundam. I personally like the original Gundam like, Gundam:Stardust Memories and Gundam:8th MS Team. But even watching those might not get someone to become a Gundam fan.
I kinda equate Gundam with Lord of the Rings and other old classic fantasy books. The fans say this is where it started and its the classics, then people read it and are bored/not entertained. At a time when all big robot shows were the same formula crazy scientist uncle make big machine with rocket fists , Gundam came out and offered more realistic sci-fi like robot action. The creator was influence by Asimov, Clarke and such. There was no faster than light travel, there was a reason why people didn't just launch missiles at each other long range, there were many elements that made it more "realistic". This was the show that was a turning point to bring in a different era of the "more realistic" robot series. Like Votoms and Macross.
The hard part about getting someone to like Gundam is that....there's no jumping in point that is particularly good to jump in at. The story is very dependant on you knowing the world and how it works. Its technology, its politics, its timeline. To do that, you gotta watch from the beginning. To do that....you gotta watch the old late 70's original show (which they haven't redone in newer animation). But come on...who's gonna watch that old looking show? Then after than you gotta watch Gundam Zeta and Gundam ZZ (the two tv series). But they don't have those for sale in America. And those two tv series were the ones that got everyone from being fan to a fanatic. So successful the stories were that they are trying to recreate is success by basically following the same formula in other Gundam incarnations.
Its like getting someone to like Star Trek Next Generation cast and giving them only the movies. Then they come back and go, " I dont' see the big deal". Then you say, "well, you should probably see the original tv series"....but they don't sell it.
Gundam is weird that way. Its too big an investment to get into properly. Because of this, I rarely pimp this show out. I've actually was able to get one other friend into it, but he's a special case. He didn't mind the footwork that went into going back and starting from the stone age. But even going back and doing all this won't mean you'll like it. If it doesn't appeal to your tastes....it doesn't appeal to your tastes. Heh heh.
As far as big robots are concerned, I personally like the more realistic ones. Like "Patlabor", "Macross", "Gundam", and the like. But every now and then I like the silly over the top stuff too. Like "Mazinkaiser".
