The State of Our Hobby

[Amazing Triangle]

I agree that when the industry does well the number of new players increases. If the number of players increases there are more gaming groups. Which means if you ever move you can join a new group with greater ease. I am not saying 4E will be the end all be all. I just hope it brings new players to the game. If that means they start playing 4E and then regress back to another edition, more power to them. This is the same way with a lot of the off shoots, separate systems, and OGL derivatives. Just cause we start in one game does not mean you will stay there, but with new product comes new players and new interest. I say it this way because "old players" that are updating could be so excited that they get new people into the game. Whether that means 4e is the game of choice or some other version or derivation.

My 2 cents in the whole matter. I am sorry if that offends.

 

[Monkey Boy]

WP.

I am confused by your stance and am not sure where you are coming from.

I think we all agree diversity and choice is good.

Are you advocating diversity in RPG's but not when it comes to the DnD brand?

 

[Wisdom Penalty]

WP.

I am confused by your stance and am not sure where you are coming from.

I think we all agree diversity and choice is good.

Are you advocating diversity in RPG's but not when it comes to the DnD brand?

Hell, I'm confused myself. At the time, it seemed to make sense (to me), but I'm a voice in the wilderness on this issue. That means either I'm a mad genius, or I'm wrong. I'm sure my mom would suggest the former, but that's probably it.

In retrospect, it was probably more of an emotional appeal than anything. I read threads of folks claiming they're staying 3.5, some going to 3.75, some trading books to go Exalted, and some going to 4E. It made me feel like everyone was taking their d20s and heading in a different direction, which...I dunno...made me sad.

Perhaps it shouldn't.

W.P.

 

[MichaelSomething]

Nothing lasts forever Wisdom Penalty.

3rd edition may have united many people under the banner of D&D but even it must come to an end.

I would perfer that there would be choices in RPGs. Pizza may be great food, but I wouldn't want to eat it every single meal.

 

[jokamachi]

Played 1e many years ago. Came back for 3e/3.5, which I like quite a bit. And that's where me and my mates make our stand. Got too many other things to pay for in this life. New editions of a game I already love ain't one of them.

 

[Pseudopsyche]

In retrospect, it was probably more of an emotional appeal than anything. I read threads of folks claiming they're staying 3.5, some going to 3.75, some trading books to go Exalted, and some going to 4E. It made me feel like everyone was taking their d20s and heading in a different direction, which...I dunno...made me sad.

Thinking of the state of our hobby in those terms, I can see why you'd be sad. Think of it this way: we're all still gaming. Meeting with friends to slay imaginary demons and uncover lost treasures. It's all good.

 

[Arnwyn]

There needs to be some shared understandings, some norms, between us gamers.

Actually, there only needs to be a "shared understanding" between me and my 5 buddies at the table.

We should all want this new edition to succeed. I know that's hard to say if you dislike what you've seen of 4E, but - for the hobby as a whole - it must be a success, for all those reasons I outlined above.

I don't care one way or the other. I certainly don't care about "the hobby as a whole". I just care about me and my 5 buddies.

 

[Mark]

I just care about me and my 5 buddies.

Is that a euphemism?

 

[Wisdom Penalty]

Is that a euphemism?

No, but it's a systemic problem within our society, our hobby, and the world at large.

In my opinion.

Love,
W.P. the Hippie

 

[BryonD]

No, but it's a systemic problem within our society, our hobby, and the world at large.

So your solution is a kumbaya everyone hold hands and be happy* solution?
Have you tried tapping your heels together also?


* happy is, of course, defined as "everyone do what *you* want" (in this case play 4e)