D&D 5E The Warlord shouldn't be a class... change my mind!

[lowkey13]

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[Paul Farquhar]

That's the traditional argument made by, um, you know, that guy who really like 4e and is always on these threads.

Which is a fine argument to make. There's nothing wrong with advocating for more tactically complex options, and for more non-magic options for martial classes. Of course, this would probably be best handled by a martial rules expansion, or, as put by Eubani, a turd mountain.

I think that's going to be my new name for any future 5e martial expansion. "Turd Mountain: The Book of Poo Swords."

Well, I made it, and I've never played 4e, beware of generalisations.

 

[Eubani]

I don't care if you disagree with me, I really don't. Just be honest whilst doing so. It is not my or anyone else fault if a person uses a dishonest or logically false argument and gets called on it. If a person does so and gets called on it they are not a victim and a person calling them on it is not toxic.

 

[lowkey13]

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[lowkey13]

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[Eubani]

First of all I do apologize for the Turd Mountain comment, that was a road too far. Having said that I still believe that the idea that the Warlord requires a more tactically advanced ruleset to exist is untrue. It would help it and all other classes specially the non magical but there is enough rule space as is for one to exist.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I still believe that the idea that the Warlord requires a more tactically advanced ruleset to exist is untrue.

It entirely depends on just what you expect the warlord to be able to do.

Various people are arguing for a Warlord, but the Warlord person A is arguing for is very different to the Warlord person B is arguing for.

 

[Umbran]

Y'all are toxic.

Mod note:

Then stop talking to them.

What, did you think that, when you called them out, they'd be stunned to silence and change their ways, or something? That's not how the internet works. All you have succeeded in doing is making the atmosphere worse, by pointing out that, when the going gets tough, and people say things we don't like, we (collective - the EN World population) will make it personal and say bad things about you, as a person. I am pretty sure that'snot the direction you'd want, now is it?

So, folks, please, don't get insulting to people you find unpleasant. Thanks.

 

[Garthanos]

It entirely depends on just what you expect the warlord to be able to do.

Various people are arguing for a Warlord, but the Warlord person A is arguing for is very different to the Warlord person B is arguing for.

The class was one of the most versatile and adaptable classes in 4e. I am pretty sure Tony and I want the 5e Warlord to make use of some of 5es class flexibility to make an even more capable Warlord than the 4e one we want something better than ever AND yet if you push us on the details you will find we agree in broad brush strokes strongly but not as much on the details Tony's design ideas tend to be too fiddly for even my tastes LOL.

 

[Garthanos]

I don't care if you disagree with me, I really don't. Just be honest whilst doing so. It is not my or anyone else fault if a person uses a dishonest or logically false argument and gets called on it. If a person does so and gets called on it they are not a victim and a person calling them on it is not toxic.

We are in a post truth world my friend. People "feel" their emotions are enough to justify lies and others enable it. The enquirer and faux entertainment "news" have taken over the news industry.