D&D General There are no "Editions" of D&D


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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
They were not.
You quite literally cannot reasonably argue against what I'm saying. I'm telling you objective fact, not opinion. Your feels doesn't change that fact into something else. Just because it felt the same to you doesn't make it so.
You don’t get to tell me my experience.
I do get to tell you what the facts are. Facts don't change with your experience. They remain constant regardless of what you think, feel or experience.
What even is reality is debatable
Not really. Philosophical games like "are we real", yada yada are just that. A game. It's fun to do as a mind exercise, but it has no impact on reality.
 

You quite literally cannot reasonably argue against what I'm saying. I'm telling you objective fact, not opinion. Your feels doesn't change that fact into something else. Just because it felt the same to you doesn't make it so.
Yes it does. Feeling, perception, and experience are more real than words on a page. Words on a page do not play a game, people do. We are not machines. What we experience is absolutely more real and more the truth then your white room analysis.
I do get to tell you what the facts are. Facts don't change with your experience. They remain constant regardless of what you think, feel or experience.
Again your are wrong. Maybe try playing the game?
Not really. Philosophical games like "are we real", yada yada are just that. A game. It's fun to do as a mind exercise, but it has no impact on reality.
Wrong again, I’m starting to feel sorry for you.

I’ll go enjoy playing now, you go enjoy your…whatever it is your doing
 

Micah Sweet

Legend
Yes it does. Feeling, perception, and experience are more real than words on a page. Words on a page do not play a game, people do. We are not machines. What we experience is absolutely more real and more the truth then your white room analysis.

Again your are wrong. Maybe try playing the game?

Wrong again, I’m starting to feel sorry for you.

All go enjoy playing now, you go enjoy your…whatever it is your doing
To play a philosophical game, fact does not equal truth. And vice versa, of course.
 



Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Yes it does. Feeling, perception, and experience are more real than words on a page. Words on a page do not play a game, people do. We are not machines. What we experience is absolutely more real and more the truth then your white room analysis.
Facts are facts. Feelings are feelings. You cannot be correct in your claim that feelings are facts.
Again your are wrong.
I quite literally cannot be wrong about this. Just like you literally can't be correct in your claim.
 









Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
I didn’t claim perception was facts, I claimed it was reality and that is a fact
So you perceive it as the same, even when it factually isn't and I perceive it unbalanced because it factually is. Our perceptions are different. So what is reality? Keeping in mind that reality is defined as the state of something as it actually exists(fact) and not a idealistic or notional idea(perception) of it.
Yes you can ( be wrong)
Not about this. Reality(facts) back me up, not you.
 

So you perceive it as the same, even when it factually isn't and I perceive it unbalanced because it factually is. Our perceptions are different. So what is reality? Keeping in mind that reality is defined as the state of something as it actually exists(fact) and not an idealistic or notional idea(perception) of it.
Reality is different for different people. That seems clear to me. This particular true for a game like D&D. I am just look at these forums. There are dozens, if not more, realities deriving form the same “facts.”
Not about this. Reality(facts) back me up, not you.
No it doesn’t (back you up), or at least not anymore than it backs me up.

I can keep doing this if you want, but it seems pointless. I’m not changing my perspective and you are not changing yours. But if want to keep wasting time, I’ve got time to waste!
 


Okay, but do you see how others may not share your viewpoint? There are a number of YouTubers and 3pp people who are looking at the game and seeing a new edition/game rather than just a new coat of paint on the old game.
I can’t speak for the doctor, it I do understand their concerns. I just don’t share them myself at this point. I am withholding judgment until the final product is out.
 

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