There is one thing about the Scout that annoys me

[BryonD]

There will be an area he is presumed to jump clear of the 20' radius fireball.

Do you move rogues when they make their save?

 

[Sunderstone]

Do you move rogues when they make their save?

if you read my posts above you would know already. The answer to that has been no as I dont use miniatures for every 5' walked through a dungeon. Its assumed he has jumped clear. We also dont use minis very much at all, unless its a special battle that warrants it.

 

[Sunderstone]

DM: "I'm sorry there are no features in this room for you to hide behind"
Player: "I hide behind the fighter"

That works just fine. The case above was if the rogue was alone and of the mind "toss a fireball in after me".


Late Edit**** For the record (to everyone interested) I drove home my players yesterday and we discussed the whole Scout thing, they all agreed that it seems abit over the top. Ironically, the player that plays the Rogue usually was the one who didnt like it the most. He's trying a Sorcerer at the moment but says he misses the Rogue (its his favorite class).

 

[BryonD]

if you read my posts above you would know already. The answer to that has been no as I dont use miniatures for every 5' walked through a dungeon. Its assumed he has jumped clear. We also dont use minis very much at all, unless its a special battle that warrants it.

But that doesn't answer the question.
A shift of 20 feet (or more depending on how the clear area relates to the fireball's center location) outside of the rogue's turn can be a very big deal.

 

[Dragon Mage]

house rule

You could solve everything and house rule Freedom of Movement so it just provides a +20 to grapple checks as I have.