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I mean, let's be clear, this is not an "all Gen Xers" issue. It's a small, loud minority. If the shoe doesn't fit, you must acquit! Yourself of being a bad Star Wars fan that is!This Gen-Xer would like you to stop placing that at the feet of an entire generation.
But to make the appeal-to-authority/guardianship argument of "I saw it the cinema as a kid", you do necessarily have to be a Gen Xer. And that's what the person I was replying to did.
And it's only certain Gen Xers who have "made the double" here, in being both outraged by the Prequel trilogy and outraged by the Sequel trilogy. It's also been pretty funny to see that, as the PT was gradually rehabilitated by younger Millennials and Filoni (himself just barely Gen-X), that a lot of the exact people who had been saying it was "the end of Star Wars" suddenly didn't think it was that bad.
But point taken, and apologies to the majority of Gen-Xers who aren't being like that (like @Ryujin and yourself).
To be fair, that's because Disney fired Trevorrow (exactly why remains unclear*), and then Abrams had to scramble like hell to get a third movie together on short notice, so presumably wasn't exactly going with the best material.The emperor coming back as a clone on a hidden planet where he stockpiled a massive fleet for his return is a straight ripoff of Dark Empire, the dumbest and most notorious of all EU storylines.
They decided they don't want the EU because they strive for higher quality and then they just adapt the worst of the EU for their main line movies?
But Filoni and others have been pretty aggressive in recanonizing certain elements of the EU.
Just not the really, really dumb ones, like the Sun Crusher. I don't even know if Abrams knew the Star Wars EU well enough to steal these elements, or if someone just suggested them to him.
I feel like Lucas would actually disagree with you. I think thought you could have your cake and eat it there, and I think the Prequel trilogy attempting to both make things have both potentially scientific explanations and fantastical ones (midichlorians + virgin birth, for example), is a good demonstration.Star Wars was never intended to be "real science fiction", it was intended to be mythic fantasy with a sci-fi reskin.
But really, that horse bolted some time in the 1980s. WEG Star Wars, for example, is very closely aligned with Andor in how it sees the Star Wars world, as are a number of the 1980s EU books (including the Han Solo ones that I read).
Might Andor have been even better as a Blake's 7 reboot? Maybe, but it worked in Star Wars, and to suggest it didn't is basically to say WEG Star Wars didn't work, and that, my friend, is real heresy.
* = If they fired him for having a terrible script - and they probably did - I think they maybe made a mistake, because his script was marginally, marginally less terrible than TRoS, and I feel very confidant in saying it would have reviewed better and made more money than TRoS.
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