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Felon said:
The problem is, IMO, ENWorld's reviews section doesn't provide much "frontage" for the reviews by non-staffers. I've written 4 reviews that were quite lengthy and took no small amount of time. It's annoying to see them scroll off the "10 Most Recently Added Reviews" list and basically fall into obscurity after less than a day.

MerricB said:
That is a major flaw of the ENworld system, and the main reason I used to post reviews on rpg.net. (I now write for the 3rdedition.org site, but that's because they lured me with free products to review. ;))

If I write a review for rpg.net or the 3rdedition.org, that fact will be advertised on the ENworld front page, and people will visit and read it. If I write a review for ENworld, no-one will notice until they specifically start looking for reviews of a particular product.

Cheers!

I'm happy to report that from this point on, we'll be posting links to all reviews on the news site. So come on down and post your reviews :)
 

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I use the print/pdf reviews list to look at things as well as searching by publisher, etc.

I've put up one review so far and I was waiting for a couple of products to get added to the database so that I can add the reviews for them. (Players Guide to the Wilderlands and Pocket Players Handbook).

I notice that the top 20 list is dominated by a few publishers and its not too surprising its Necromancer and Green Ronin given the consistent quality of their published products.
 

About the Top20: I only own the Manual of the Planes and the Legions of Hell, two books I really like although they make me use them very sparingly exactly because I am afraid of "spoiling" them :p

I have also seen and read some parts of Madness in Freeport - nice adventure series which we have played, but nothing legendary - and Book of the Righteous, which I probably should read better because it seemed only average to me.

Crothian said:
WEll, if someone feels that a certain product is good, review it. That's the only way that this becomes any better is to have more people review things. This is a reflection of EN World since the reviews come from the people of EN World. Some books are general, some are specific. I don't think that should matter. All people can do is review the book for what it is and not puunish it for what it isn't.

I am sure that ALL of us are willing to say a few words on the book we have but very few want to write down a FULL review.

I can say this about myself, but I think it applies to many of us... I really like writing reviews, and I did so for music albums in a local intranet site with friends, but I have never wrote a single one in ENWorld. One reason is [shameless] because I think that the official reviewers are so good that I feel my review would suck in comparison[/shameless]. I don't want to write an incomplete or approximate review if I do so. Also I don't have time to playtest a book throughout, but this should be one of the most significant support to a review's value. The consequence is: rather than writing a low-profile review, I don't write it at all.

On the other hand, I have quite a precise idea about every book I own, and about many others I often have the chance to borrow from collecting friends, and my overall opinion could at least increase the amount of marks for more statistic value.

I understand that it's not simple, but I would like ENWorld to give different space for FULL and QUICK revisions separately. It would be nice if we could just enter our VOTE with a couple-lines comment (or even without - it could even be just a simple poll), just as it is done by IMDB for movies. I still think that the full reviews are the MOST informative, but since it's hard to write them well, a few people do compared to how many of us own each book, and this results in fewer marks which means a LESS informative average.

In conclusion, the TOP would be to add a simple poll to each book so that who knows the book but doesn't want to write a thesis about it could still post a mark. The reader who wants a public opinion on a book reads the poll average (like browsing IMDB for a movie), while the one who wants an expert's deeper analysis reads the full reviews (like browsing ALLMOVIE).
 

I only own the Manual of the Planes and the Legions of Hell, two books I really like although they make me use them very sparingly exactly because I am afraid of "spoiling" them

Doesn't that suck.

I tell myself that I don't game enough and if I am thinking of using something, it's probably now or never, but I have to fight off that inclination nonetheless.
 

Psion said:
I tell myself that I don't game enough and if I am thinking of using something, it's probably now or never, but I have to fight off that inclination nonetheless.

i tell myself it is b/c the quality of the bindings has dropped off since the 1edADnD days when the PHB, DMG, and MM could withstand a nuke.
 

diaglo said:
i tell myself it is b/c the quality of the bindings has dropped off since the 1edADnD days when the PHB, DMG, and MM could withstand a nuke.

No, it really hasn't.

I have never had a 3e book fall apart the way my 1e UA and OA did.

Time to take the rose colored glasses off. :cool:
 

Psion said:
Doesn't that suck.

It does in fact. But I have DMed for a too short time still and never went to high levels. Planar adventures are difficult to arrange at low levels without using NPCs who are more powerful to help the PCs. So I could only sparingly use the creatures from those books for some encounter. I really dig the high fiends from Legions of Hell (and Armies of the Abyss as well), but beside an occasional appearance - with evident clue NOT to engage in battle - I couldn't use them yet. Overall I could have pushed the party immediately to other planes, but I feel it would waste the epic feel of it...
 

Psion said:
No, it really hasn't.

I have never had a 3e book fall apart the way my 1e UA and OA did.

Time to take the rose colored glasses off. :cool:

notice i didn't mention the UA, OA or DDG from 1edADnD ;)

but i have seen a number of 2000ed books warp/ and or separate from their bindings.
 

Psion said:
No, it really hasn't.

I have never had a 3e book fall apart the way my 1e UA and OA did.

Time to take the rose colored glasses off. :cool:
Well, I don't know how my 3e/3.5e WotC books will hold up, but they seem pretty good.

However, I have a 20+ year old 1e DMG sitting on the shelf that has seen plenty of use, and it's still in good condition (though it smells like an old book).

Bindings for some of the later books weren't as good, admittedly.
 


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