Touch Spells Question

[Darklone]

That's what I meant... with a high level chill touch to put Chilly touchies by high BAB attacks everywhere you want (need cooled beer?).

Was just referring to it as "Free action".

 

[nute]

For touch spells, (shocking grasp/vampiric touch/joy buzzer, etc) I'd thought it was clear that touching the target completed the spell. If you're holding the charge, for whatever reason, then the spell can potentially be disrupted by someone thwacking you with a dead cat or whatnot (Concentration Check v. DC of dead cat).

If they're moving, though, it would depend on the casting time of the spell. 1-action = move and zap or zap-and-move. 1-round = spend the first round preparing the attack, second round move-and-release or release-and-move. "Move" can, of course, be replaced with "move-equivalent action".

Example: Ferro the wizard has his shield on and a sword in his hand. He uses a MEA to loose his shield (doesn't feel like being unarmed, just unarmored. Ferro's dumb.) and then casts Shocking Grasp. He can now touch anyone he can reach and zark with the spell. However, his target's 10' away. So Ferro holds the spell. Next round, he steps up (Move) and connects with the Shocking Grasp (zap). As I rule it, he does NOT have an NEA left over to re-ready his shield.

Sound correct?

~M.

 

[shilsen]

Example: Ferro the wizard has his shield on and a sword in his hand. He uses a MEA to loose his shield (doesn't feel like being unarmed, just unarmored. Ferro's dumb.) and then casts Shocking Grasp. He can now touch anyone he can reach and zark with the spell. However, his target's 10' away. So Ferro holds the spell. Next round, he steps up (Move) and connects with the Shocking Grasp (zap). As I rule it, he does NOT have an NEA left over to re-ready his shield.

Sound correct?

~M.

Correct.

 

[Darklone]

Can't he take a 5ft step additionally to a ME action (no move!) and an attack/spell?

Btw, is there another core rules spell out there with several touch charges such as Chill Touch?

Edit: Ever typoed Cure Rules?

 

[nute]

With things like Chill Touch, it basically just adds an additional effect to a touch attack, and you can make so many of them. I don't think the core rules have any other spells specifically that do "charges" of attacks.

 

[Li Shenron]

For touch spells, (shocking grasp/vampiric touch/joy buzzer, etc) I'd thought it was clear that touching the target completed the spell.

True, but there are few spells that give you more charges. You can discharge the first together with the casting SA.

If they're moving, though, it would depend on the casting time of the spell. 1-action = move and zap or zap-and-move. 1-round = spend the first round preparing the attack, second round move-and-release or release-and-move. "Move" can, of course, be replaced with "move-equivalent action".

If casting time is more that SA, for example because it's a spontaneously cast metamagicked spell, you still get to touch-attack at the same time you cast it. You don't get a move with it, but only a 5ft step, which I'd let be taken between provoking AoO and touch-attacking (although I have never read about such a case in the rules).